Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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Sheesh, that engine is an absolute monster. Amazing technologies working together...
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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Awesome what these cars can do these days. Impressive as it is. The stupid A$$ fender flares ruin it for me. I would rather put that drive train in my 2012 R/T. I like the 08-14's better than then 15's & up.
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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03/23/18 01:32 PM
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Always a negative nancy no matter what... if it wasn't the flares, it'd be something else. I'm sure they are built to handle even more power, just detuned so they last.
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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That’s what suprised me as well, usually you need a pulley change for that kind of hp. Seems like this was all timing and fuel changes
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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That has to be touching on 1000 horse power at the crank ....when is the crate engine out?
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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If they offer a Demon crate engine, I would have to think seriously about selling off the old toys and dripping one in the Scatpack.
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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How different are the engines? Cam, different blower?
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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Demon uses a 2.7L blower at 14.5 psi, Hellcat 2.4L @ 11.7 psi. Cams, I’m not sure. I think everything else is pretty much the same Edit:apparently the cam is different. .561/.551. 224/240@.050, 109/137 lobe centers for the Demon. Here’s an Allpar article with the differences: https://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/demon-deep-dive.html
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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I’d guess they do come out with one within the next year or so I'll have my eyes open for the release.
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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According to that link, 62% has been changed from the hellcat to demon engine... way more than I figured. I think the 62% figure relates to 62% of the parts value are different not that 62% of the components are different
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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Block, heads,front cover, crappy timing gear is the same , Rods, Pistons, Supercharger, cam are different
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Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune
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"This was achieved by introducing a new version 6.2-liter supercharged Hemi, with 62% of the content changed from the original Hellcat Hemi — including a new block, crankshaft, connecting rods, pistons, and supercharger assembly."
This is from the article... Looks like a redesigned shortblock, not just rods/pistons, cam etc. To me this means block, crank and so on.
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