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1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance #2465877
03/13/18 05:05 PM
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I am planning to swap motors & the new heads are Edelbrock E-streets with angled plugs (440 in 70 b-body). Each two pairs of cylinders angle in towards each other slightly.

I would like to keep the same headers I have now (I "think" they're Heddman 1-3/4"...bought them long ago). I currently have iron heads (straight plugs) & cylinder #6's plug wire is already in there tight. As you can see, the #6 plug/wire is just left of the primary tube for cylinder #6 & the primary tube for cylinder #2 goes up/over/to the left of it. I'm afraid that if the plug is angled more towards the left (& that #2 primary tube on the left) I will have a spark plug/wire clearance issue.

Has anyone dealt with this & what is the solution? I think years ago Accel had some "shorty" yellow spark plugs that might help a little, but I don't want to get the motor in before I figure this out. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!

Plug 6 Clearance PicA.jpgPlug 6 Clearance PicB.jpg
Last edited by PurpleBeeper; 03/13/18 05:06 PM.

70 Roadrunner convt. street car 440+6, NOS, 4-spd, SS springs '96 Mustang GT convt. street car '04 4.6 SOHC, NOS, auto, lowered "Officer, that button is for short on-ramps"
Re: 1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance [Re: PurpleBeeper] #2466063
03/13/18 10:23 PM
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Why not test fit the headers to the engine while it's still on the stand?

Re: 1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance [Re: forphorty] #2466103
03/13/18 11:21 PM
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These headers are installed in the car on an iron head motor right now or I would. I don't want to pull the motor until the new one is ready to install since it's licensed/insured/fully drivable now.


70 Roadrunner convt. street car 440+6, NOS, 4-spd, SS springs '96 Mustang GT convt. street car '04 4.6 SOHC, NOS, auto, lowered "Officer, that button is for short on-ramps"
Re: 1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance [Re: PurpleBeeper] #2466132
03/14/18 12:10 AM
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If you have to ding a tube for clearance Hotrod has done a dyno test that shows little to no power loss from the ding even if its fairly large.


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Re: 1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance [Re: HemiRick] #2466271
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Originally Posted By HemiRick
If you have to ding a tube for clearance Hotrod has done a dyno test that shows little to no power loss from the ding even if its fairly large.
This, just get the blue tipped wrench and make a couple of dings. On my Headman Elites only 1 tube needed it for the RPM heads, the #2 tube, near the #6 plug. HTH, Steve

Re: 1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance [Re: PurpleBeeper] #2466383
03/14/18 02:36 PM
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Thanks guys. That is certainly cheaper than my other idea of cutting the #2 tube, extending it 3", bending the bottom half of the #2 tube back slightly & welding in a patch piece. Is that even possibly for your basic muffler shop guy on headers?


70 Roadrunner convt. street car 440+6, NOS, 4-spd, SS springs '96 Mustang GT convt. street car '04 4.6 SOHC, NOS, auto, lowered "Officer, that button is for short on-ramps"
Re: 1-3/4" Heddman vs. Angled Plug Clearance [Re: PurpleBeeper] #2466392
03/14/18 02:44 PM
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Never understood why they made them angled.I almost bought a set but with my domed pistons no way was I having them fly cut to clear.Rocky


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