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Filled block on the street #2464784
03/11/18 03:40 PM
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How would a 700hp low deck, 13-1, filled to 1 1/2" below the deck, electric pump, cool on the street ?

Would E85 make a big difference ?

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464787
03/11/18 03:44 PM
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You are going to need a good oil cooler, period.

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464813
03/11/18 04:58 PM
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Depends on if you're driving a few miles to the drive-in or shopping center, or if you have a big fuel tank and want to go someplace 150 miles away.


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Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464837
03/11/18 05:47 PM
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Water temps wont be the issue, oil temps will. I have a filled block street car with a big oil cooler and it has been that way since 2001 with zero ill affects. Hot days the oil temp will climb but with a good cooler its more than liveable


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Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464881
03/11/18 07:42 PM
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I can't speak to the big block, but my 1/2 filled small block was totally fine... until I put the engine diaper on it... then things started getting HOT. Put a oil cooler on it... never a problem since.

Just plan on a cooler and you'll be fine.

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: dizuster] #2464890
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How far do most of the guys drive these 🚙. A quick trip for an icecreme cone or to a local cruise. If you drive further than that plan according


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Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464908
03/11/18 08:39 PM
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10-15 miles....

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: dizuster] #2464909
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Originally Posted By dizuster
I can't speak to the big block, but my 1/2 filled small block was totally fine... until I put the engine diaper on it... then things started getting HOT. Put a oil cooler on it... never a problem since.

Just plan on a cooler and you'll be fine.


Don't you run E85 ??

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464912
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I ran a sb filled to the top ..tons of street driving ran good thick oil never had a prob.mind you never payed attention to oil temps just coolant which never ran hot.i think you'll be fine keep an eye on the oil just like a trans if it smells/looks burnt change it/ put a cooler on but I don't think you'll need to.

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: KOS] #2464927
03/11/18 09:07 PM
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I agree. Ran my 408 100 miles one way. No issues with oil too hot, but that depends on what is considered too hot. Block was filled just above soft plugs. Oil never got over 250* and i aways run 20/50 premium oil. I use Amsoil most of time with Brad Penn racing oil when moneys tight. No oil cooler on that one, but water temp was 200*-210* most of the time using electric pump and fan. Now have a 511 filled within 3" of the deck.Water temp was 185-195* most of the time past summer using mech pump and fan. Gonna try same without a cooler, but will be using Amsoil as 250* does not hurt it and Amsoil claims its good to 300*, will see.

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464937
03/11/18 09:27 PM
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Ditto on comments. Only thing I noticed. When it did get "hot", it stayed hot and took some time to cool down, like many hours.

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2464993
03/11/18 11:21 PM
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I agree and that's what I run, an oil cooler.

Funny though we have 3 big blocks on the go, 2 strokers 1/2 fill and a 440 NO fill, the 440 is running the hottest on the water side and we are trying to sort this right now.

One way I was looking at it is if you have fill the oil down the bottom is not getting as much cooling from water and the water is not getting as much heat from the oil.


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Re: Filled block on the street [Re: ] #2465076
03/12/18 03:37 AM
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E-85 will help the engine run cooler but as mentioned, oil!

Re: Filled block on the street [Re: Rob C] #2465277
03/12/18 04:36 PM
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My buddies Pontiac was half filled on his 10:70 street car that we sprayed also. It was fine temp wise & oil tempo wise under normal street driving. He drove it back & forth to work many times. In fact, it always ran cooler than any of my Mopars do (not filled).


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