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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: BradH] #2463705
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So, who in this thread sells Gibbs oil. Asking for a friend.

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Hot 340] #2463708
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Originally Posted By Hot 340
So, who in this thread sells Gibbs oil. Asking for a friend.



Check to see if Summit or Amazon carry it just to get at least a ballpark price. I think Greg that manages Keystone is going to be selling Shaffer’s if you want to check that out


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: A/MP] #2463725
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Originally Posted By A/MP
... Castrol does not own oil refineries, oil wells, etc. and does nothing more than blend numerous products from numerous vendors to make numerous blends of oils.

That is extremely common among the "boutique" oil companies, which includes most specialty racing oil companies. They do their own R&D w/ the variety of available base stocks & additives and come up with a blend they can call their own.

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: A/MP] #2463753
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Originally Posted By A/MP
... Unless you are trying to extract every bit of HP from your combo, 20W50 is the best weight for racing.

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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2463836
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The history of Joe Gibbs oil (now known as Driven) was Joe Gibbs Racing and several other teams were having issues with the Nascar "sponsor" oil eating cams during break in on the dyno - hence one of his engine builders had the break in oil made to their specifications – As I have been told they had to run the sponsor oil during racing - I would suspect a lot of oil bottles got emptied and filled with their own mix after the break in was done.

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: DoubleD] #2463901
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I use Gibbs Driven XP-7 synthetic blend high zinc 10w40 in my Duster. That's what the guy I bought it from, said to use, since that's what the original engine shop who built it, said to use. He also said when the engine was built (5 years ago), the engine shop initially used the BR Driven break-in oil on start-up as well.


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Tommy D] #2464000
03/09/18 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Tommy D
Six pages in and not one account of a failure...just rumors. Is this "lube shaming" LOL

We've run Penn Grade (old Brad Penn) for years since losing three separate engines to cam failure. The failures sent debris through the engines and required total rebuilds in all cases. This with flat tappet cams. Since switching to Brad Penn, no failures.

Does anyone have a personal experience with a true, oil-related failure due to Penn Grade? I just bought another case of 10W30, and have no plans to change until proven it's not going to work.

That looks like a billet cam maybe even roller???

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2464087
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I always enjoy the stampede mentality. I took some time today to get the information that no one wanted to acquire. SO FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NO REAL KNOWLEDGE....Brad Penn was recently purchased by D A Lubricant in Lebanon IN.THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE IN THE FORMULA OF BRAD PENN 1 RACING OIL. Their standard Brad Penn oils, that are daily use blends, have changed to meet today's automotive manufacturers and EPA standards. The mineral oil base of most oils and those of Brad Penn 1 have the ability of keeping additives, that are found in motors oils, in solution and do not settle out because of temp, pressure or aeration. In order for modern motor oils to keep additives in solution, with respect to performance, must have an ester base and that ester base is expensive. So if some one orders the Brad Penn instead of the Brad Penn 1 for their performance engine then that's on you. You should really read the literature that Dave Reher Racing compiled and read his well thought out dissertation of racing oil and their effects. If you want to get rid of Brad Penn 1 oil, then PM me and I'll take it off your hands.No oil related engine failures in over 30 years from 8500 rpm 273,318 stock eliminator, 360 and 440 bracket motors and 396 destroked A/MP motor.

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