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#2459615 - 03/01/18 07:00 PM Pump suggestions for a dry well
feets Offline
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Registered: 01/20/03
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Loc: Irving, TX
I plan on sinking a shallow dry well in my yard and installing a pump to control flooding. My yard as well as the neighboring yard get a significant amount of standing water in our spring storms. They're typical mid to small size suburban lots and I've been using a portable 1/4 hp pump for ages. the thing is that I've grown tired of hauling the pump, a screened bucket (trash filter), extension cord, 100 ft hose, and what not out there every time this happens.

Due to a small rise across the middle of the lot a French drain or other gravity drain are not feasible.

The plan is to sink a dry well a couple feet deep to collect the water and plumb it to the street as the lots were originally designed. A monster pump is not necessary since my little one has been doing the job just fine. However, it would get the job done quicker without a restrictive garden hose.

What brands of pumps have you guys used and how long have they lasted?

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#2459631 - 03/01/18 07:58 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
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Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 1968
Loc: ohio
Imho, you're trying to put band aids on a gun shot wound.

Since you're planning on digging anyways, I would do a French drain all the way to the street., Need not be huge, completely invisible except for a drain grate.

Easily done with a mini excavator and 12" bucket. If you can do it when the ground is dry grass damage will be minimal.

Best part, no maintenance, no pump replacing, no electric. Depending on layout of the yard, the opening of the drain can be a gravel walkway.

Lots of other possibilities too.

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#2459824 - 03/02/18 07:28 AM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
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I have found that French drains only work well for about 5 years before they start plugging up. This was on a sandy golf course so I’m sure that had something to do with it. Not sure what to tell you about pumps. I would set it up so you can easily pull it out for service or replacement. Also I would set it up on a block inside the well to keep it from plugging up.

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#2459877 - 03/02/18 09:54 AM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
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He already said that he can't do a French drain.
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#2459970 - 03/02/18 01:28 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
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In the summer when the water table rises here, I have a pretty cheap 1/8hp(?) sump pump on a float switch under the house, with a garden hose out to water the lawn. It works pretty well.
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#2460028 - 03/02/18 03:34 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: hooziewhatsit]
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Originally Posted By hooziewhatsit
In the summer when the water table rises here, I have a pretty cheap 1/8hp(?) sump pump on a float switch under the house, with a garden hose out to water the lawn. It works pretty well.



I already choke my little pump down to a garden hose. It is set up for 1" pipe. If I could plumb it through 1" or larger pvc pipe out of the well and past the rise in the yard it would have an easier life and move far more water.

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#2460031 - 03/02/18 03:38 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: ruderunner]
feets Offline
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Registered: 01/20/03
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Loc: Irving, TX
Originally Posted By ruderunner
Imho, you're trying to put band aids on a gun shot wound.


You just put a band aid on a stomach ache.

French drains don't work uphill.

Once I pump the water past the rise in the yard I will drop it into a larger drain that can also handle run off from the gutters on the roof.

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#2460041 - 03/02/18 04:05 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
bboogieart Offline
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Registered: 01/12/08
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Not sure what the landscape is like by you, but we have sump pumps specifically for this, except they are in the basement.

They run at least a 2" or 3" PVC line out the house and down grade from there. Should be able to find what you need in a catalog, if the local Home Depot type store does not carry them in your area.

Just need to dig a pit for it and put in a plastic reservoir, but you have to do that anyway, No? If it's out side it will also need a cover.
Decorative stone.
Maybe a wishing well type of ornament.
You should be able to bury most if not all of the outlet for the run to the street.

I have a Wishing Well over my septic clean out. Easy access.
I don't have to dig it up every few years.
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#2460074 - 03/02/18 04:54 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
srt Offline


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Loc: Fire and Fury
Is there enough site available to install a detention tank rather than a sump? A detention tank can be sized to retain peak flows, or, with a smaller pump than a sump requires, balance outflow to inflow. Use residual water for landscape watering.

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#2460095 - 03/02/18 05:19 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
John_Kunkel Offline
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Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 19597
Loc: Rio Linda, CA
I have the same problem; I used a short piece of pipe to make a sump and have a Little Giant automatic submersible pump in it that drains the sump through about 50' of 1 1/2" PVC pipe. The pump is a trash pump so it doesn't need a screened inlet. A perforated steel cover covers the sump.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Little-Giant...06807/300004965


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#2460097 - 03/02/18 05:21 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: srt]
bboogieart Offline
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up
I like that idea better.
Of course we have no need for yard irrigation here but in Texas, yup.
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#2460184 - 03/02/18 07:04 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
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Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 27172
Loc: Irving, TX
I'm not too interested in a retention tank since I don't have any real landscaping. Since it's the back yard (and never used for anything) I just mow and go.

I like John's idea of a trash pump. Right now I drop the pump into an old milk crate lined with a piece of window screen and set it in the yard.

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#2460296 - 03/02/18 10:37 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
Dave Hall Offline
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Registered: 01/21/08
Posts: 1956
Loc: Cotati, CA
I think you can band clamp on to 3" rain water leader with camlocks like this? I used this stuff on tanker trucks with a 12hp. pump. I don't know what it costs though??? Could you install a tank next to the well to use the water in the dry season?


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#2460302 - 03/02/18 10:47 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: feets]
Dave Hall Offline
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Loc: Cotati, CA
Don't forget to vent your tank!

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#2460313 - 03/02/18 11:06 PM Re: Pump suggestions for a dry well [Re: Dave Hall]
rhad Offline
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Registered: 08/19/03
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Loc: garnett kansas
feets,as talented as you are just hook a 440 or a slant to a pump remotely operated by a moisture switch,keep the engine in a small building in the back,or a space in your garage,you could even run it off of natural gas,no need for a drain hose ,just shoot the water clean to the street!!
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