Page 8 of 9 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 >
Topic Options
#2462194 - 03/06/18 05:43 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
340wedge Offline
master

Registered: 09/18/03
Posts: 2648
Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC formerly the ...
I had always heard that Chrysler's torqueflite was the first automatic transmission that could shift as fast as a manual.
_________________________
1971 Sassy Grass Green Duster 340
2006 Charger Daytona GoMango

Top
#2462228 - 03/06/18 06:29 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: 340wedge]
CompSyn Offline
super stock

Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By 340wedge
I had always heard that Chrysler's torqueflite was the first automatic transmission that could shift as fast as a manual.


Jim Thornton of the Ramchargers comments in this interview how traction was the weak link back in the day. Automatics helped in overcoming this.

"... and you could race any Ford or Chevy or Pontiac and usaully beat them, uh, and if you're running the automatic transmission you surly beat them because the traction was so poor at that time. - 11:10

Watch here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xuact
_________________________
Project 1969 Plymouth Road Runner 383/727/3.23 F5

Top
#2462233 - 03/06/18 06:39 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: E-Ticket]
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here

Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 16012
Loc: Mass
Originally Posted By E-Ticket
Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
Didn't Rick Ehrenberg once say something like "happiness is a manually shifted, firmly sprung Mopar?" And he wasn't talking about a MVB auto...



I'll bet Booger would change his mind real quick if he was ever here at 94 and 696 at four in the afternoon...

With the amount of congestion on the roads today, and the condition, combined with the 'quality' of driver's, rowing don't sound like too much fun...


Play time is there if you want it in the auto world, especially late-model...

Far less hassle out there with the idiot's when you don't...



You got that right.... Especially when you get older and after a couple of hernia surgeries...lmao.... up



I'll be the first to agree with you that rowing a manual sucks in stop and go traffic, BUT, that's if your rowing an old school 833 and linkaged TOB, upgrade the vehicle to a Tremec TKO600 or Tremec T56 along with a modern hyd TOB, and a 2800-3200 lb pressure plate requires no more effort than power brakes, and at low speed a TKO or T56 can be nudged out of gear without the clutch if need be, I recall sitting in line for HOURS waiting to get in the fairgrounds, wasting my time to attend the Mopar Nationals, something I would never do with an old school 833 4spd set up, with a Tremec/hyd TOB no more added effort than an automatic... something to consider when we're comparing auto to manual attributes, some of us are running modern manual transmissions and accompanying support system

Top
#2462260 - 03/06/18 07:10 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: DAYCLONA]
fourgearsavoy Offline


Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 9330
Loc: Rittman Ohio
I run a stick car because it's fun and not boring like a glide in the 1/8th mile shruggy I have used all the heavy clutches and the Centerforce II that I have in the car right now is very light pedal but surprisingly good holding pressure. I would never install an automatic in my car even when I needed a new left hip replacement. I've had 4 speeds and 5 speeds in my car with and without syncronizers and my current box is a syncronized HEMI box with the diaphragm clutch and I love it. thumbs
There is a reason it costs more to have a stick car, IT'S WORTH IT !!!

Gus drive
_________________________
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60

Top
#2462290 - 03/06/18 07:42 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Spaceman Spiff]
fourgearsavoy Offline


Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 9330
Loc: Rittman Ohio
Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By A12
Is the Demon available in a stick or is it just available with the column shift (paddle) AUTOMATIC because it is QUICKER!!

I've always been confused by those proud that they took the easiest way to go fast. Let a computer and technology take the skill right out of it. The three easiest things to do in the car world: go fast with an automatic, put an LS in it, and bracket race a Tesla. No great skill involved. Put it in drive, buy a kit from Kroger or pay your $120,000. Sure, you can use the paddle shifters, but for the most part they go faster shifting on their own. (Fastest Hellcat in the world at 9.04 has a stick...) whistling


You think it’s easy to drive a car that will go 3’s at over 200mph, in the 1/8th, because it’s an automatic?


It's probably hard when you have high heels and a skirt on to go with the automatic whistling


Attachments
IMG_0023-1.JPG




Edited by fourgearsavoy (03/06/18 07:44 PM)
_________________________
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60

Top
#2462489 - 03/07/18 08:38 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
EV2Bird Offline
No more politics

Registered: 06/23/14
Posts: 4496
Loc: Kansas Roads Between 0 and 140...
Thats a crazy old but cool long shifter, ive a GF101 in my street racer with the modern version of that shifter.

Top
#2462543 - 03/07/18 10:33 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
6PKRTSE Online   content
master

Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 3554
Loc: Motor City
Absolutely amazing that such a disliked option has made so many pages worth of entertainment. It appears all of us would settle for any old cool optioned Mopar but many prefer the console & bucket seats for the true muscle car feel.
_________________________
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 CHALLENGER R/T, 25.5 Cert, Big Inch Alum 16 plug HEMI twin turbo.
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner.
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4.
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Top
#2462553 - 03/07/18 10:56 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: 6PKRTSE]
fourgearsavoy Offline


Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 9330
Loc: Rittman Ohio
Originally Posted By 6PKRTSE
Absolutely amazing that such a disliked option has made so many pages worth of entertainment. It appears all of us would settle for any old cool optioned Mopar but many prefer the console & bucket seats for the true muscle car feel.

FWIW I'm putting a bench back in my car with the big curved handle and white ball on top shruggy
_________________________
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60

Top
#2462555 - 03/07/18 10:58 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
fourgearsavoy Offline


Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 9330
Loc: Rittman Ohio
Originally Posted By EV2Bird
Thats a crazy old but cool long shifter, ive a GF101 in my street racer with the modern version of that shifter.


Yeah that thing has seen some laps down the track and a few thousand street miles too biggrin

Gus beer
_________________________
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60

Top
#2462558 - 03/07/18 11:06 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO]
DaytonaTurbo Offline


Registered: 02/26/03
Posts: 21026
Loc: Manitoba, Canada
Originally Posted By RS23U1G

The clutch is an anachronism...


So are these old cars we fawn over. Maybe you should sell yours and buy a new challenger with an automatic that can be driven by a soccer mom while texting wearing heels. spank laugh2

Top
#2462708 - 03/07/18 03:27 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: DaytonaTurbo]
RSNOMO Online   rolleyes
Moparts Torchbearer

Registered: 04/19/12
Posts: 18880
Loc: -
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
So are these old cars we fawn over.



Wrong...

There's a dedicated group here that show-up at Stanton every year...

With cars produced 45+ years ago, but dialed-in with surgical precision...

Looking and running better NOW than when they were new...


Above and beyond that, there's a whole bunch more here...

You can see 'em the third Sat of Aug every year...


You've demonstrated you know how to post high school gibberish...

Now, why don't you come down here and show 'em how its done???


And make sure you tell 'em all about their 'feminine' auto's...






Top
#2462844 - 03/07/18 07:46 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO]
fourgearsavoy Offline


Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 9330
Loc: Rittman Ohio
There are advantages to driving an automatic in in big money classes there is no doubt about that. There are a few guys that can drive a GOOD manual transmission and go rounds (personally I have gone 11 rounds for the win) without missing a gear.

When is the last time you seen a thread about switching from a manual to an auto? Most of the swaps go the other way from auto to manual for some reason whistling
Stick cars are expensive to build but they are enjoyable to drive and most muscle car guys would agree while racers think it's just a novelty.
That's why they make both kinds of transmissions,stick for people that are coordinated and automatic for people that can only step on the gas shruggy

Gus beer


Attachments
23231224_1750435168331817_8297307229037431265_n.jpg


_________________________
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60

Top
#2462972 - 03/08/18 12:33 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
AARCONV Offline


Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 4963
Loc: NEW JERSEY
I love my bench..might put back my column shifter handle just for fun


Attachments
2018-03-08 00.31.37.png


_________________________

Top
#2462973 - 03/08/18 12:39 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO]
John Brown Offline
super stock

Registered: 05/28/12
Posts: 917
Loc: South Bend
Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
So are these old cars we fawn over.



Wrong...

There's a dedicated group here that show-up at Stanton every year...

With cars produced 45+ years ago, but dialed-in with surgical precision...

Looking and running better NOW than when they were new...


Above and beyond that, there's a whole bunch more here...

You can see 'em the third Sat of Aug every year...


You've demonstrated you know how to post high school gibberish...

Now, why don't you come down here and show 'em how its done???


And make sure you tell 'em all about their 'feminine' auto's...







The PSMCDR drivers at Stanton are all about consistency and going faster with what they have. Many of them have raced the same car for years. Auto on the column doesn't bother them one bit. Hats off to all of em.
_________________________
July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Top
#2462974 - 03/08/18 12:49 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: John Brown]
RamblerMan Offline
master

Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 4081
Loc: Castlegar, BC, Canada
Yeah, I don't know what the big deal against them is either. I see them as a quaint, sign of the times. Wanna feel like it's 1974 again? Hop in a car with a bench and column shift. Even better if the car has a COLORED interior!! Remember Red Interiors? Green? Blue? Tan???? Gold?!?!

Those were the days, indeed.

I miss my blue Hornet. Suzie the little blue coupe. Six cylinder, Bench Seat, Column Shift, Power Drum brakes. Such a sweet little car.


Attachments
100_2110.JPG


_________________________
Bloody Mary, Full of Vodka, Blessed art thou among cocktails....


Top
#2462992 - 03/08/18 06:05 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO]
Spaceman Spiff Offline
master

Registered: 11/28/10
Posts: 3408
Loc: jersey
Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
So are these old cars we fawn over.



Wrong...

There's a dedicated group here that show-up at Stanton every year...

With cars produced 45+ years ago, but dialed-in with surgical precision...

Looking and running better NOW than when they were new...


Above and beyond that, there's a whole bunch more here...

You can see 'em the third Sat of Aug every year...


You've demonstrated you know how to post high school gibberish...

Now, why don't you come down here and show 'em how its done???


And make sure you tell 'em all about their 'feminine' auto's...







Will YOU be racing YOUR car....
Or just on the sidelines....
With your Pom-Poms....
_________________________
526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!

Top
#2463147 - 03/08/18 01:10 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: fourgearsavoy]
RSNOMO Online   rolleyes
Moparts Torchbearer

Registered: 04/19/12
Posts: 18880
Loc: -
Originally Posted By fourgearsavoy
When is the last time you seen a thread about switching from a manual to an auto? Most of the swaps go the other way from auto to manual for some reason



Here's one now...

And like many others in these parts, it's left its mark...


I've been up close and personal with this car, and it is mind-blowing...

Just a sterling example of an extraordinary Mopar...

10.90's on a bias-ply...

Column auto, and all...


And can still putt-putt into the local McPuke, and dazzle all in attendance...


Attachments
Scan0009.jpg



Top
#2463172 - 03/08/18 01:57 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO]
feets Offline
Senior Management

Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 27259
Loc: Irving, TX
My 65 Belvedere was a column shift car that had been converted to a floor shift. I swapped the auto for an 18 spline 833.
The 18 spline box was later replaced with a 833 OD box.
After the engine relocation and power increase I tossed the 833 and stuffed a 727 back in the car.


As for my current car, I won't argue with my column shifted split power bench seat. I can guarantee that I'll spend more time in this seat than I did in the 65.


Attachments
imperial seats.jpg



Top
#2463178 - 03/08/18 02:08 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO]
Spaceman Spiff Offline
master

Registered: 11/28/10
Posts: 3408
Loc: jersey
Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By fourgearsavoy
When is the last time you seen a thread about switching from a manual to an auto? Most of the swaps go the other way from auto to manual for some reason



Here's one now...

And like many others in these parts, it's left its mark...


I've been up close and personal with this car, and it is mind-blowing...

Just a sterling example of an extraordinary Mopar...

10.90's on a bias-ply...

Column auto, and all...


And can still putt-putt into the local McPuke, and dazzle all in attendance...


Still waiting for pictures of your Hemi car....
The one that you race....
_________________________
526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!

Top
#2463184 - 03/08/18 02:19 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Spaceman Spiff]
tboomer Offline



Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 22087
Loc: The frozen wasteland of Iowa
You won't see one....I don't think one exists whistling

Top
Page 8 of 9 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 >

Advertisement
Forum Stats
25,631 Registered Members
32 Forums
195,617 Topics
2,288,606 Posts

Most users ever online: 1,424 @ 06/20/18 07:18 PM
Moparts Newest Topics
1970 'Cuda
by moparjack44
12/14/18 02:20 PM
15% off Sporting goods - EBAY
by moparx
12/14/18 02:05 PM
Which Florida swapmeet ??
by Stanton
12/14/18 01:17 PM
383 build
by J Brough
12/14/18 12:48 PM