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#2461661 - 03/05/18 06:01 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Morty426]
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Originally Posted By Morty426
Since Barry loves Green and 70 Coronets

Column shift SIXPACK coupe


Nice!

(my birthday is in June..... whistling )

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#2461670 - 03/05/18 06:12 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RS23U1G]
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
Kept me on my toes and engaged.


Tell you what, you bring that orange bomb here for the Woodward cruise...


To do a complete loop, at the peak, takes a good 8 hours...

Of non-stop bumper to bumper...


Come row it and tell me how 'engaged' you are...



Hours upon hours of traffic...

All kinds of purple...


Can you hang???



And.....don't forget to to have a top shelf cooling system in your ride, as you will DEFINATELY need one. Also, lotsa bottled cold water
for your "loop" from Pontiac to I-696 and back again... wave
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#2461674 - 03/05/18 06:16 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Rhinodart]
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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
Originally Posted By A12
Originally Posted By Rhinodart
And talked about her for decades as a GirlyMatic... stirthepot


Yeah, and how about all of those '69 M-Code girlymatic Darts and Cudas down Just like the '68 Road Runners when you ordered a 727 Torqueflite you could only get it as a column shift and only with a bench seat and only as an automatic if you bought a '69 M-Code Dart/Cuda.


Not my fault Chrysler bean counters were wimps and wouldn't let them put a 4-speed in an M-Code. I had a 68 Dart GTS that had a Mr. Norms motor mount in it and a 440 with 4-speed, I ended up cutting that car up as it was found in a field in northern Indiana, always wondered if it was factory, had an H-Code VIN but was one that fit around the time of the GSS's... work


Real reason was not the bean counters I was told, Chrysler didn't have a Dana at the time for the Dart/Cuda 440 4-speed so it had to be an automatic or nothing. My '69 M-Code Dart has the floor cut out and was a 4-speed with the stock 3.91 8-3/4 rear. Also the inner fenders are cut out for headers....must have been one of those "racecars" grin

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#2461688 - 03/05/18 06:37 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12]
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Originally Posted By A12
just think 40 or 50 years from now 2018 Demon owners will get railed for having an automatic column (paddle) shift and not a 6-speed manual :laugh2



I think in 50-80 years from now most Hellcats/Demons if they aren't rendered useless because their HAL9000 OB puter fried and replacement are NSI...they'll be transplanted with Tesla "motors", all you have is a go pedal...

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#2461710 - 03/05/18 07:21 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RoadRunnerLuva]
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Originally Posted By RoadRunnerLuva
And.....don't forget to to have a top shelf cooling system in your ride



Always amazes me how many are on the side with the hood up...


I've been out there every year since '95...

Made the run in 90+ degree heat many times...


Never a lick of trouble...


Nothing exotic, just an OEM cooling system built to A/C specs...

No aluminum, no electric fans, no 'flex'...


(And three pedals...

Accelerator, brake, and parking brake...


Oh, and this...

Re-bushed, re-worked, and dialed-in to OEM splendor...


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#2461719 - 03/05/18 07:36 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RS23U1G]
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Can't we all just get along... laugh2

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#2461738 - 03/05/18 07:52 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: ChryCoGuy]
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Originally Posted By ChryCoGuy
Can't we all just get along... laugh2


Music may help?

With a Chrysler, or course;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOryJvTAGs

Haters may hate music too though.....

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#2461744 - 03/05/18 08:17 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: ChryCoGuy]
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Originally Posted By ChryCoGuy
Can't we all just get along... laugh2



LMAO...

You DO know where you are???

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#2461869 - 03/06/18 12:03 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RS23U1G]
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
Didn't Rick Ehrenberg once say something like "happiness is a manually shifted, firmly sprung Mopar?" And he wasn't talking about a MVB auto...



I'll bet Booger would change his mind real quick if he was ever here at 94 and 696 at four in the afternoon...

With the amount of congestion on the roads today, and the condition, combined with the 'quality' of driver's, rowing don't sound like too much fun...


Play time is there if you want it in the auto world, especially late-model...

Far less hassle out there with the idiot's when you don't...



You got that right.... Especially when you get older and after a couple of hernia surgeries...lmao.... up
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#2461880 - 03/06/18 01:13 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12]
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Originally Posted By A12
whistling

Almost perfect. Needs the pedal put back. I was hunting a non-console car when I found my Bee. Still buckets, though.
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#2461888 - 03/06/18 04:29 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12]
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Originally Posted By A12
Is the Demon available in a stick or is it just available with the column shift (paddle) AUTOMATIC because it is QUICKER!!

I've always been confused by those proud that they took the easiest way to go fast. Let a computer and technology take the skill right out of it. The three easiest things to do in the car world: go fast with an automatic, put an LS in it, and bracket race a Tesla. No great skill involved. Put it in drive, buy a kit from Kroger or pay your $120,000. Sure, you can use the paddle shifters, but for the most part they go faster shifting on their own. (Fastest Hellcat in the world at 9.04 has a stick...) whistling
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#2461896 - 03/06/18 06:03 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: OhioMopar]
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By A12
Is the Demon available in a stick or is it just available with the column shift (paddle) AUTOMATIC because it is QUICKER!!

I've always been confused by those proud that they took the easiest way to go fast. Let a computer and technology take the skill right out of it. The three easiest things to do in the car world: go fast with an automatic, put an LS in it, and bracket race a Tesla. No great skill involved. Put it in drive, buy a kit from Kroger or pay your $120,000. Sure, you can use the paddle shifters, but for the most part they go faster shifting on their own. (Fastest Hellcat in the world at 9.04 has a stick...) whistling


You think it’s easy to drive a car that will go 3’s at over 200mph, in the 1/8th, because it’s an automatic?
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#2461913 - 03/06/18 07:43 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Spaceman Spiff]
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By A12
Is the Demon available in a stick or is it just available with the column shift (paddle) AUTOMATIC because it is QUICKER!!

I've always been confused by those proud that they took the easiest way to go fast. Let a computer and technology take the skill right out of it. The three easiest things to do in the car world: go fast with an automatic, put an LS in it, and bracket race a Tesla. No great skill involved. Put it in drive, buy a kit from Kroger or pay your $120,000. Sure, you can use the paddle shifters, but for the most part they go faster shifting on their own. (Fastest Hellcat in the world at 9.04 has a stick...) whistling


You think it’s easy to drive a car that will go 3’s at over 200mph, in the 1/8th, because it’s an automatic?

I missed where anyone in this thread showed or even mentioned a car that runs 200 mph in the 1/8, making that a relevant question. It must be crazy keeping them on the track since they generally put a transmission in that had LESS gears than any mentioned in the thread, and an air shifter to shift them. You must have been talking about all the 3 second rides with column shifts and bench seats? Or the ones with the A-833 or Tremec 6 speeds?
But to your question, I guess Tim Mcamis thinks it's pretty easy anymore. I don't have any illusions that it is. But enjoy.
https://youtu.be/EAJ9PMf_aYY
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#2461956 - 03/06/18 09:35 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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#2462019 - 03/06/18 11:54 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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In the 'modern' world, ain't no foot out there gonna compete with a microprocessor...


Here's some 'modern' vintage...

From Stanton last year...

Damn if the top five ain't ALL autos...


A clutch pedal is fast becoming 'nostalgic'...


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#2462074 - 03/06/18 02:04 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RS23U1G]
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
From Stanton last year...

Damn if the top five ain't ALL autos...


I hung out with a F.A.S.T. racer last year who rows a stick and he admits it's tough to be competitive. Not sure it's really a fair comparison though since converter tech has improved dramatically over the last 45 years but a clutch is essentially still just a clutch.

If you want to launch a stick car you have to have some RPMS before you side step the clutch. Then you start getting into scatter shield territory and parts breakage is a more frequent occurrence. And try getting any traction with an OE suspension and skinny bias tire - forget it.

Is it fun to row gears? Yeah but unless you have the associated equipment to support it it's not the easiest route to the winners circle.

But again, that's drag racing and not typical street driving. I still maintain a 4 speed is way more fun in just about every other circumstance. I just don't see the joy quotient being as high with a column shifter.
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#2462097 - 03/06/18 02:59 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RMCHRGR]
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Hey, I used to only want 4 speed cars but as I get older and my arthritis gets worse the automatic cars have become my preference. It gets very painful to continue to clutch and shift a 4 speed car. I don't think I'm the only one with that problem... and I get just as good of a thrill driving a column AT today. And when the day comes "they" say I shouldn't be driving anymore and they take my keys away...well I'm hiding spare keys now. Hopefully I can remember where I hide them...
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#2462151 - 03/06/18 04:27 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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My first Mopar was a plane-jane 68 Charger, column shift auto and bucket seats with a center buddy seat. So not exactly a bench seat but close to it. I was younger and didn't appreciate this combo. So I swapped it out to the sportier center console and a manual valve body in the trans.

In many ways I missed the fold down buddy seat arm rest. It was so comfortable to simply put the car in drive and rest my arm on the arm rest; more leg room too. Also, the hot honey sitting next to me could scoot on over and cuddle up; a nice plus. In my mind, this is the ultimate and most comfortable in a cruising machine.

Now, many years later, I still have the buddy seat I removed from my first Mopar. I plan on installing it in my column shifted 69 Road Runner. And oh yes, IT IS GREEN smoke


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#2462152 - 03/06/18 04:31 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RMCHRGR]
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Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
But again, that's drag racing and not typical street driving. I still maintain a 4 speed is way more fun in just about every other circumstance.



You can maintain whatever you want...

Technology, and the driving 'challenges' of 2018 say different...


1) The page I posted from Stanton was Pure Stock, not F.A.S.T.

Every one of those cars would have absolutely no problem on the street...


2) The photo I posted of the SB was from the street-where it lived 99% of the time...

Damn near 50 years ago...

The auto killing it out there on the street ain't nothing new...


40 years ago, my street car had three pedals...

I was zinging it out there...


Today??? Wouldn't even THINK about a clutch...


The clutch is an anachronism...

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#2462180 - 03/06/18 05:21 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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Ok you win.

Congratulations.
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