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#2460525 - 03/03/18 12:56 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By MuscleMopars
Originally Posted By kcarfanatic

Column shifted cars to me (auto or manual) were and still are undesirable,


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An appraiser told me many years ago column shifted cars are "highly undesirable".


How about a bench seat column auto Bronze Fire Metallic A12 '69 1/2 Road Runner post car. Doesn't even have chrome on the post!





Still dosen't pass muster, nice candidate for a 4/5 spd manual conversion though


Yeah that would slow it down in the 1/4-mile, just what you want rolleyes rolleyes

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#2460529 - 03/03/18 01:02 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12]
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There's one just like this sitting downtown in Cobo this weekend...


Column-shift buddy-seat...


What a slap in the face to a top-end trim level...


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#2460532 - 03/03/18 01:09 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RS23U1G]
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Mucho better...


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#2460539 - 03/03/18 01:26 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: MuscleMopars]
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Originally Posted By MuscleMopars
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By MuscleMopars
Originally Posted By kcarfanatic

Column shifted cars to me (auto or manual) were and still are undesirable,


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An appraiser told me many years ago column shifted cars are "highly undesirable".


How about a bench seat column auto Bronze Fire Metallic A12 '69 1/2 Road Runner post car. Doesn't even have chrome on the post!





Still dosen't pass muster, nice candidate for a 4/5 spd manual conversion though


It's a one owner, 21K miles, one of 3 built this color and probably the lowest priced A12 from the factory built.


My A12 Road Runner (<-over there) is Y4 Spanish Gold and a column auto with a black interior bench seat. But it is optioned with power brakes, power steering, belt molding, all tinted glass, AM/FM radio, rear speaker, body line pin striping, and a clock confused I guess because most racers put a Sun TACH right behind the column PRND21 so you didn't have to look in two places to shift and read the TACH.....now a column shift 727 makes more sense and probably why back in the day few thought it wasn't "manly" tonguue I keep forgetting there are few of the back in the day members left on here.


MikeR


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#2460561 - 03/03/18 02:48 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12]
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I don't mind column shift/bench seat cars at all, even though both my cars
have factory buckets and floor shifters (the Charger has the Slap-Stik,
and Duster has a B&M Pro Ratchet)...I like the sleeper look of column shift cars. That was the whole point after all of the OG Road Runner...
Use a sparce taxi-cab like interior, and put expenses into the part that
REALLY mattered like the drivetrain/suspension..etc..MEEP MEEP!!!
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#2460687 - 03/03/18 09:54 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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I began minding them when I took a hard corner and ended up in the passenger seat

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#2460693 - 03/03/18 10:20 PM Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? Nothing [Re: EV2Bird]
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Seat belts.

Regardless of seat type. twocents

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#2460697 - 03/03/18 10:36 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? Nothing [Re: Alaskan_TA]
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I have converted about 40 column shift cars to floor shift console. I have two of them I am doing right now.
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#2460714 - 03/03/18 11:09 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12]
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Originally Posted By A12
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By MuscleMopars
Originally Posted By kcarfanatic

Column shifted cars to me (auto or manual) were and still are undesirable,


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An appraiser told me many years ago column shifted cars are "highly undesirable".


How about a bench seat column auto Bronze Fire Metallic A12 '69 1/2 Road Runner post car. Doesn't even have chrome on the post!





Still dosen't pass muster, nice candidate for a 4/5 spd manual conversion though


Yeah that would slow it down in the 1/4-mile, just what you want rolleyes rolleyes




I don't remember Ronnie Sox column shifting down the 1/4?

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#2460750 - 03/04/18 02:52 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: DAYCLONA]
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I don't remember Ronnie Sox column shifting down the 1/4?
I'll give you that one....but then again are you sure about that wink On the other hand I don't think that any of the Sox and Martin cars ever hand a console automatic or 4-speed. Very few to this day could shift a manual like Ronnie Sox, Herb McCandless, Dick Landy or any of those pros/stars of the day. Tom Hoover said that once the Torqueflite came into play with the 7" slicks they were running few could beat the Mopars even on a bad day. Bucket seats were extra cost in the Road Runner and a few other cars of that era or baked into the cost of higher base price models. A friend that tuned my '69 Road Runner back then had a '68 RR coupe, rubber floor mats, bench seat, column automatic, no radio, no power steering, 3.23 open rear, no décor, nothing but a Hemi. Bought it to street and drag race. I got to use it for a day and that's when I found out to my surprise it didn't have Suregrip shock shock He later put in a deep gear Dana as he planned from the day he ordered it. But he kept the column 727.....he was no Ronnie Sox or Herb McCandless either grin


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#2460767 - 03/04/18 07:11 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By kowalski440
Is that Vicky Vette? MMMM!





At a quick glance it looks like her, but VickyVette has bigger "VV"


You're right! But she could be her stunt double on her day off!

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#2460779 - 03/04/18 07:53 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: kowalski440]
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That Challenger with the 50 shades of green interior makes me vomit into the back of my mouth,and while I was trying to hold it in,the plad seat inserts and column shift made me go into full blown projectile vomit mode! A full interior gutting is in order for that one!
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#2460787 - 03/04/18 08:39 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: chargervert]
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Personal preference is a non-console 4 spd. and buckets but I would drive a column-shift auto with buckets or bench. up First '70 Challenger R/T was a column-auto w/ buckets. 2nd was a non-console 4 spd. Never had a console auto till after I got married. Female companions (including my wife) didn't mind sitting on a cushion between the buckets but probably would not have sat on a console. wink


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#2460798 - 03/04/18 08:54 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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I dig that green plaid/houndstooth Challenger interior. Can definitely live with a column auto for that one.

Do prefer 4 speeds, but for autos I don't have a major preference on the shifter location. Back in the early 90's Nick Scavo had a black '65 Impala that ran mid 8's with a column shifter and bench seat. Always thought it was cool.
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#2460823 - 03/04/18 09:26 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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If it’s an automatic, I go for the column shift, unless it’s a car which has an unresolveable header clearance issue. Bench or buckets is a tossup, but I hate center consoles with a passion.

My Roadrunner came with a bench and column shifter. My old Aerostar had buckets and a floor shifted automatic.

Which is sportier?

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#2460828 - 03/04/18 09:31 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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IMO A Column Auto in a RR or Bee is right at home, LOVE IT! It goes with the whole RR, Bee theme. In a GTX R/T or Charger I just can't get use to the idea of a column auto.
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#2460845 - 03/04/18 10:02 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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Here's a 3.55 axle package road runner with power steering and power disc brakes. Bench seat and column shift. It's nice to drive.


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#2460893 - 03/04/18 11:16 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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My 68 rr is bench with column shift. My 72 340 barracuda was buckets and column shift. Seems odd someone would get a triple black 340 and go with auto on the column vs a floor shift/console.
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#2460908 - 03/04/18 11:50 AM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird]
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I love to see original cars regardless of engine /
transmission combination from /6 up.

I love the greens too.

There will always be 'haters', color haters, column shift haters, etc.

I try to avoid the hater mentality types in real life as much as possible.

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#2460927 - 03/04/18 12:15 PM Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Alaskan_TA]
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My 383 70'Road Runner is a bench seat column auto car. I plan on leaving it this was to have something different since I never see many these days. My other cars are all console bucket seat cars.
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