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#2459389 - 03/01/18 11:05 AM Daily Driver Longevity . . .
a12rag Offline
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Hey all, just wondering how long/many miles, you think you can get out of a daily driver (newer, 2004 up lets say). Assuming you do "preventative" maintenance . . .

For me, the new vehicles "seem" to be great ! I have an 06 Magnum R/T AWD, that have had since new (was company car for 1st 3yrs, then bought out the lease and have had since) . . . currently sitting with 210k km (approx. 128k miles), it has always had oil/filter change every 3k miles, other fluids changed as required, belts, brakes, tires, suspension, etc . . . still seems like it is new car ! . . . would like to get another 60k miles on the clock . . .no rust, interior perfect . . .

I think like anything, if you look after your machines, they will last a long time - way cheaper than trading in every 4-5yrs . . . anyhow, what is everyones thoughts . . .

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#2459390 - 03/01/18 11:11 AM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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Very well built cars, I dont think you could say the same about a 2006 Ram. Probably be rusted in half by now...or anything else from 06.

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#2459391 - 03/01/18 11:11 AM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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Originally Posted By a12rag
Hey all, just wondering how long/many miles, you think you can get out of a daily driver (newer, 2004 up lets say). Assuming you do "preventative" maintenance . . .

For me, the new vehicles "seem" to be great ! I have an 06 Magnum R/T AWD, that have had since new (was company car for 1st 3yrs, then bought out the lease and have had since) . . . currently sitting with 210k km (approx. 128k miles), it has always had oil/filter change every 3k miles, other fluids changed as required, belts, brakes, tires, suspension, etc . . . still seems like it is new car ! . . . would like to get another 60k miles on the clock . . .no rust, interior perfect . . .

I think like anything, if you look after your machines, they will last a long time - way cheaper than trading in every 4-5yrs . . . anyhow, what is everyones thoughts . . .


Newer cars do very well in the longevity department. It seems like everyone is getting 200,000 miles out of cars built in the early 2000s. My 2002 'yota and my 2005 Acura have 200,000 miles each.
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#2459395 - 03/01/18 11:16 AM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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In our area, 150,000 miles isn't unusual. Issue we have is rust. Right around 130,000 miles or so brake lines, transmission cooler lines, spare tire mount (on pickups under the bed), all start to have corrosion issues requiring replacement. For myself and most peers, that is about 10 years old. Most cars or trucks will start to see blistering or already have small holes in certain places too. Its around this time I start considering a new vehicle. The road salt is hell on cars around here. I am sure 200,000 miles wouldn't be out of the question if it weren't for the salt.
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#2459397 - 03/01/18 11:20 AM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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Had an 06 300C Hemi that had 230,000 km's on it when it was rear ended and written off.
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#2459408 - 03/01/18 11:38 AM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: sp392]
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Originally Posted By sp392
Very well built cars, I dont think you could say the same about a 2006 Ram. Probably be rusted in half by now...or anything else from 06.

Especially in your neck of the woods.
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#2459412 - 03/01/18 11:43 AM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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Seems body, trim & electronics are limiting factors now; but my little '96 Breeze is still going strong at 272,000 and so is my '93 Pathfinder at 203,000, so I may never need a new DD.
Mechanically about the only thing I hear about are tie-rod ends and occasionally transmissions. And some of those people beat the crap out of their vehicles.
Take care of your stuff, and it'll take care of you, generally speaking.

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#2459448 - 03/01/18 01:08 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
parksr5 Offline
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My cousin just clicked over 600,000 in his 96 Chevy 1500.

Based on some of the other comments above, I don’t think longevity and looks are in the same category nor do I think a daily driver needs to be clean or not rusty. If the thing gets you from point a to point b reliably, who cares if the fenders have rust holes in then and ext. I also consider rusted items like brake lines and ext. as regular maintenance if you do live in the salt belt.

Living where I live, it just does not make sense to buy new daily drivers often due to looks; it’s too expensive.

I keep my nice cars nice by not driving them in salt and buy beaters to get around in the Winter time.

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#2459457 - 03/01/18 01:30 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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I got 450,000 on my Neon before one piston let go, so I say these new cars should go the same.

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#2459466 - 03/01/18 01:46 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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I think any car should be able to hit 200,000 miles pretty easily nowadays. My car is a bit older than you asked about, but my 2000 300M is getting pretty close to 250k miles and still drives like new. The interior handles are actually my biggest concern.
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#2459470 - 03/01/18 01:58 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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150k on my 2000 Durango and 108k on my 2004 BMW. Hoping to see 200k on both of them. That's about 8 years to go on the Dodge and 15 or more on the BMW.

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#2459473 - 03/01/18 02:04 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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As long as rust isn’t an issue, many cabs/livery service cars with over 300,000 miles.
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#2459474 - 03/01/18 02:10 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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My 04 Intrepid has over 218000 miles on it, no rust, no issues, just normal maintrnce stuff.

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#2459475 - 03/01/18 02:11 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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2004 grand Cherokee here....4.0 runs great with 201k on it. Wanna hit 300k but rust has arrived.
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#2459485 - 03/01/18 02:30 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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One thing that has made cars last so long (in my opinion, more than any other factor) is the advent of multi-port electronic fuel injection and advanced engine management systems.

The fuel being injected into the cylinders is now being metered so incredibly precisely, that raw fuel and combustion by products seldom get past your rings and into the oil. Ever noticed how clean the oil is when you change it in a new car compared to how it was in the old carbureted and throttle body injected cars? That's a lot of the reason (along with vastly improved lubricants, of course) that cars today can go 7000+ miles between oil changes.
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#2459487 - 03/01/18 02:39 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: NewbombTurkk]
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Loc: Eagle, Idaho
New stuff still falls apart only now instead of worn out engines it's wiring, computers, transmissions that stop shifting, injectors, etc. When I worked at the Chevy dealer the mechanics there NEVER worked weekends and that was the same for all the other places in town. FF to today and the dealership techs have work Saturdays to keep up with the workload.

Practically nothing used under 100k, which is why I'm not buying anything. A ten year old 1/2 ton truck with 150k+ on it is not worth $9,500+ to me.

Was looking at buying a clean used Dakota a few years ago and gave up. Everything is wore out, peeling paint, cigarette holes in the seats, junkers for double what they should be. The only reason why they are able to get those prices is in-house financing to people with poor credit and no down payment Very amusing that the dealership, or owner, will say "low miles and in great shape", when it's neither one. The standards for a nice used vehicle have changed and I didn't get the memo apparently.

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#2459491 - 03/01/18 02:51 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: BloFish]
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Originally Posted By BloFish
Originally Posted By sp392
Very well built cars, I dont think you could say the same about a 2006 Ram. Probably be rusted in half by now...or anything else from 06.

Especially in your neck of the woods.


I am from your neck of the woods. I took this picture yesterday. It turned 250,000 kms (155,000 miles) this past weekend.

2004 Hemi Sport.

Mind you the box sides have started to rust, and someone ran into the front while it was parked so I am deciding what I should do next. Ideally I would like to find another or a Go Mango Daytona Ram that someone kept inside.

Dave


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#2459492 - 03/01/18 02:53 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: a12rag]
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You and I think alike. My daily is an '06 Magnum R/T AWD and I hunted a long time to find that specific model. Bought last year with 88k miles and its at 96k now. Hoping it lasts me a long time. Hopped into the old '70 Plymouth again after the weather broke and it felt like driving a farm tractor.

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#2459496 - 03/01/18 02:56 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: 69_SIX_PACK]
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Registered: 03/05/03
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Loc: Las Vegas, NV
I have 255,000 miles on my 2003 Ram CTD. My 2011 Crown Victoria only has 136,000 miles on it and drives like new. No plans to replace either.

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#2459521 - 03/01/18 03:37 PM Re: Daily Driver Longevity . . . [Re: Neil]
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On the question of how long newer vehicles will run, it really depends on the specific model. The majority of newer vehicles will easily run 200,000 miles. There are still some exceptions though. I had one of the early 2000's Intrepids with the 2.7 engine. Really nice car in most respects. The car was bought for my wife by her previous employer. Later, when the company sold the car we bought it and I drove it. The car had better than average care, but the engine died at 140,000 miles. As many of you guys know, the 2.7 engine was not known for having a long life. If the Intrepid would have had the optional 3.5 engine, I would probably still be driving it.

It is important to do some research on a vehicle before buying it to determine it's likely reliability. Most, if not all of the vehicle manufacturers build some good cars today. Unfortunately, there are still a few models and engines that do not hold up as well. Do some research and choose wisely.

I periodically see vehicles with 250,000 to 300,000 miles. Thirty or forty years ago that kind of mileage was very rare. Today, it is not all that uncommon. Most of the vehicles in the salvage yard are there due to rust, accidents, and the body / interior falling apart. Some will still have bad engines. Electrical problems are another common problem.


Originally Posted By Neil

Practically nothing used under 100k, which is why I'm not buying anything. A ten year old 1/2 ton truck with 150k+ on it is not worth $9,500+ to me.




Hate to say it, but around here, most trucks like this are $12,000 to $15,000. Oddly enough, a 3 year old truck with 30,000 miles can be bought for a little over $20,000. After a LOT of shopping, I bought a 1980's truck. I would have liked to have a newer truck, but just couldn't justify paying the price. This old truck is not as nice, but was cheap! This option will obviously not work for everyone, but it works for my needs.




Edited by QuickDodge (03/01/18 03:43 PM)

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