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#2459149 - 02/28/18 08:41 PM Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins
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I've seen a lot of mid 90's to mid 2000's Dodge Diesel trucks for sale lately. A lot of pretty good looking trucks with good miles for decent prices.

From everything I've seen, these things have a cult following and most people love them.

Is this just a coincidence or does everybody know something I don't?

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#2459174 - 02/28/18 09:17 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Nope! Keeping both of mine.


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#2459176 - 02/28/18 09:21 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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#2459179 - 02/28/18 09:25 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Morty426]
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They would have to pry my 2005 from my cold dead hands!


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#2459180 - 02/28/18 09:33 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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#2459193 - 02/28/18 09:46 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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#2459199 - 02/28/18 09:54 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Ohhh, heck no..... The only reason I would imagine anyone selling their Cummins vehicles is that they no longer need it, looking to upgrade to a newer one or find their selves not needing a diesel for their needs or whatever... The older diesels, 80's, 90's are great engines.....!!!
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#2459215 - 02/28/18 10:28 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: E-Ticket]
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#2459222 - 02/28/18 10:53 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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#2459225 - 02/28/18 10:58 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Mr. Smurf]
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They come and go, trannys break, engines blow, plenty out there! whistling
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#2459231 - 02/28/18 11:29 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Rhinodart]
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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
They come and go, trannys break, engines blow, plenty out there! whistling


Tranny's a plenty huh.....??? stirthepot
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#2459262 - 03/01/18 03:01 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: E-Ticket]
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There's a 5K fix and it's called ATS. My '04 has 296,000 and will be the last pickup I will own.

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#2459271 - 03/01/18 04:46 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Not selling my 92, in fact looking for a 4x4 and maybe a crew cab for conversion.
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#2459289 - 03/01/18 06:25 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Guitar Jones]
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First NEW vehicle that I ever bought. 2006 Diesel, now has 40,500 miles. Always garaged. I bought it to haul the racecar trailer. Kelly blue book shows, within $1,000 of what I paid for it. I don't plan on selling it, unless I get what I paid for it!! I plow my house and business the last 3 years, then it gets washed and put back in the heated garage.


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#2459290 - 03/01/18 06:40 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I also noticed there seem to be more out there for sale now and the prices look like they are a little more normal. For a while you wouldn't see any for sale and if you did the prices were insane. I thought that was driven by the fast diesel truck craze.

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#2459315 - 03/01/18 08:26 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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No plans to sell my '01. Only reason I'd ever get rid of it is if I came across a good deal on a crew cab (4 door) '03-'07 Cummins or '04.5-'07 Duramax.
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#2459319 - 03/01/18 08:42 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere
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#2459322 - 03/01/18 08:54 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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#2459323 - 03/01/18 08:55 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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In this case, he bought it new .. pulled camper to lake a few times a year, too old now to go to lake .

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#2459329 - 03/01/18 09:00 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: ViperDave]
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Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.
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#2459340 - 03/01/18 09:23 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


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#2459341 - 03/01/18 09:24 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Guitar Jones]
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iagree LOL, or a 6.4. Didn't get much better after the 6.0.
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#2459352 - 03/01/18 09:44 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Okay, judging by the large number of responses in a quick amount of time, the cult following still seams strong and what I'm seeing is just a coincidence.

Not that I have a need for a Diesel, I have been contemplating buying an older lower mile truck (maybe mid to late 90's) to keep around just for open trailer tow purposes and ext. As many have stated on recent threads on this board, there is a lot of concern with future serviceability on some of the newer vehicles due to all of the electronics that may or may not be supported in 10-15 or more years.

FYI- I do love driving Diesel trucks; some of my friends were into the fast Diesel truck craze mentioned above. Just something about smashing into the loud pedal on one of those things; really amazing that something that heavy can move like that.

I went to a Diesel event at the track years ago and saw many huge, street trucks running in the 10's in the 1/4 mile; that's just amazing.

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#2459359 - 03/01/18 10:00 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Once you tow with a diesel, you will never want to tow with a gas powered truck again! Mytruck gains speed towing uphill, I used to have to get a run on a hill in my gas powered Ram 2500.
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#2459367 - 03/01/18 10:22 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Bought my second CTD in 07 and didnt look back. Got the last of the 5.9s. Came with CATs but thats OK. Only reason I traded my 02 was I wanted a bigger cab. So far the only major engine issue is a leaky rear main seal. Interior issues, mostly the drivers seat.

As far as a cult into these trucks its easy to get caught up spending coin on these trucks.

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#2459370 - 03/01/18 10:30 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: dart4forte]
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A dealer in my area was advertising new 2017 4x4 Cummins for a little under 34k and they had 150 of them. Could have something to do with the deals on the new trucks.

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#2459376 - 03/01/18 10:41 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


146K ain't even normal mileage for a 2005, should be in the 200's by now! Do with your truck what it was meant to do and you will see things differently... work
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#2459385 - 03/01/18 10:57 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Rhinodart]
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Jim, my truck only had 32k miles on it when I bought it eight years ago. These aren't even broken in until they have 100k miles on them.
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#2459388 - 03/01/18 11:02 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Probably a few reasons.

1. Used Cummins prices are ridiculously high. A 200,000 mile truck in good shape can easily fetch 16,000 bucks or more.

2. Diesel prices are about 50 cents a gallon higher than gas prices, negating the mileage advantage of a diesel...ESPECIALLY if you don't tow a lot.

3. Maintenance expenses on a Cummins truck can be pretty high.

4. '95-'05 was 13-23 years ago. The trucks are probably starting to wear out, even though the engines are still good. People are probably getting tired of rusted fenders, cracked dashes, and seat padding that's worn down to the frame.

I think that now, with the greater focus on capability that Ram has with their gasoline trucks, Cummins trucks are not as necessary for the majority of truck owners. I, personally know two people who have sold their Cummins Rams and purchased gas powered rams. One a 5.7 2500 and the other a 6.4 3500. The money they made on the sale of the diesel trucks made the gas trucks ridiculously cheap. The guy with the 6.4 tows with it all the time with a gooseneck trailer and he couldn't be more pleased.

I sold my 05 Cummins 3500 a while back and bought a used 2014 1500 Tradesman. I couldn't be happier with the new truck. It's quieter, rides better, is more comfortable, and can still tow 10,000 pounds...which can handle everything I'll ever throw at it.

In the end, I think people are running the numbers and realizing that they are better off with a gas truck if they don't absolutely need a diesel.

None of this is to say that the Cummins Ram is not a fantastic truck...I just think that lots of people are realizing that they really don't NEED the Cummins, so they are moving on.

I have no hard data to back this up...just a guess on my part.


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#2459393 - 03/01/18 11:14 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Once you tow with a diesel, you will never want to tow with a gas powered truck again! Mytruck gains speed towing uphill, I used to have to get a run on a hill in my gas powered Ram 2500.


Not Me. I went from a 2008 6.7 to a 2015 6.4 Hemi and haven't looked back. My gas truck only uses 7 qts of oil, no fuel filter concerns, and it gets warm enough to defrost the windows in the winter.

If you're towing 15,000 regularly, the Cummins makes sense, but you don't need a diesel to pull 7500 lbs around, and I certainly don't need one to drive back and forth to work M-F.

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#2459396 - 03/01/18 11:18 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Any gas truck can drag around a typical open car trailer, but an enclosed trailer is a different story.
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#2459399 - 03/01/18 11:28 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.
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#2459406 - 03/01/18 11:37 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: ViperDave]
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Originally Posted By ViperDave


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.


Yeah, I have to wonder just how many sales Ford and GM got thanks to the 47re.

The 48re solved those issues, but it was a 4-speed when everyone else was selling a 6 and it still wasn't perfect. I know that I had to replace three governor pressure solenoids on the thing. At least it was a cheap fix that I could handle myself.
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#2459410 - 03/01/18 11:40 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: ViperDave]
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Just turned 106K on m 2015 2500 4x4 5.7 Hemi Ram regular cab and tow constantly with it. The ride is pretty rough when not loaded down though. I do have a first gen again to tow my larger trailers which I will this summer to the big shows, but no need for a daily diesel anymore. twocents
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#2459415 - 03/01/18 11:49 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I have people try to buy mine all the time... more than any vehicle I ever owned. Only way I'd sell mine is if I found the right 04-05 as they will always be my favorite years for them. I'm currently driving a 04 hemi ram, how people can drive gas trucks and deal with the lower power and mpgs is beyond me... I pretty much hate the thing. I may buy a rust bucket 03-05 and swap the body over and keep the 5.7 for a swap.
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#2459417 - 03/01/18 11:56 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: ViperDave]
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Originally Posted By ViperDave
Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.


The lift pump issues seem to be more likely on 2004 and older Rams. So far no transmission issues, but I change the fluid regularly and I use only Mopar ATF 4 fluid. The last time I changed the fluid, I found most of the snap ring for the overdrive unit in the pan so I had to replace that,but I caught it before it became an issue. I change the oil every six thousand miles, and change the fuel filter every other oil change. I use only Wix filters,and either Rotella,or Cummins formulated Valvoline oil.
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#2459423 - 03/01/18 12:03 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Silver70]
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Originally Posted By Silver70
I'm currently driving a 04 hemi ram, how people can drive gas trucks and deal with the lower power and mpgs is beyond me...


My '14 5.7 flat-out scoots and even with the old 6-speed, I'm seeing better mileage than my diesel. I get about 17mpg combined...higher if I try.

Granted, the engine puts out 50 more HP than the earlier models.
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#2459428 - 03/01/18 12:15 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: biggE]
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A dealer in my area was advertising new 2017 4x4 Cummins for a little under 34k and they had 150 of them. Could have something to do with the deals on the new trucks.


On the big diesel or the lil eco-diesel?

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#2459438 - 03/01/18 12:53 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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When I bought my 92, one didn't have much choice for a working truck if you bought a Dodge.....360 or Cummins, not much of a comparison.

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#2459452 - 03/01/18 01:17 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Orange_Crush]
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Originally Posted By Orange_Crush
Originally Posted By Silver70
I'm currently driving a 04 hemi ram, how people can drive gas trucks and deal with the lower power and mpgs is beyond me...


My '14 5.7 flat-out scoots and even with the old 6-speed, I'm seeing better mileage than my diesel. I get about 17mpg combined...higher if I try.

Granted, the engine puts out 50 more HP than the earlier models.


I won't say my hemi truck is slow, but compared to my diesel it is laugh2 Then again it's not stock either and mods done added to the mpgs as well as added a good bit of power. I couldn't do that with the hemi. Also 11-12 vs 19-20mpg is a huge difference to me between my trucks.

I'd really like to get a newer 1500 ram diesel... only other way I'd part with my 01.

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#2459455 - 03/01/18 01:22 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Around here any Dodge with a Cummins with less than 100,000 miles is hard to find and sells quickly.

I strongly agree with the folks who had said once you tow with a diesel you won't want to go back to a gas engine.

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#2459482 - 03/01/18 02:21 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Orange_Crush]
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Originally Posted By Orange_Crush
Probably a few reasons.

2. Diesel prices are about 50 cents a gallon higher than gas prices, negating the mileage advantage of a diesel...ESPECIALLY if you don't tow a lot.


This was one of the primary reasons for me. When I first started with diesels, the price of diesel was lower and gas powered trucks had lousy mileage and little pulling capability.
Last few years, diesel has been .50 to 1.00 more a gallon, coupled with the fact that gas engines have become much more efficient and powerful. Even when towing, but especially when normal driving, which for me is the majority of the driving.
Another hassle of the diesel for me was cold weather, even with a block heater, starting could be a hassle in really cold weather and then the cab heat didn't start actually getting warm until about 10 - 15 miles of highway driving later. Idling would not help, that would just result in cold cylinder wash.
I have not regretted going back to a gas engine 2500HD after owning Cummins Dodge 2500s but I don't tow every single day.


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#2459493 - 03/01/18 02:54 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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All in all....the Cummins diesel engine is EXTREMELY FUN when turned up "CORRECTLY" and used "correctly"....even when they aren't turned up, BUT it isn't an absolute necessity for most people and if you are doing a lot of road work/freeway work, yes, a diesel is a much better investment over a gas motor because you will wear out a gas motor quicker than you will a diesel....
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#2459562 - 03/01/18 04:51 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I still have my 02 Cummins, HO, 6spd, quad cab, short box . . . only 120k km (72k miles) on it . . .first new vehicle I have bought . . . only driven in winter (6) times !! No rust, totally still like new . . . yup, towing my travel trailer, or the open car trailer - never been issue. With 28' travel trailer (approx. 7k lb) and 60-65mph, 16mpg all day long !!

But, got the bug that I should sell the Cummins, and my AWD Magnum R/T and get new(newer) Ram 1500 4x4 to replace both . . . well, I bought a '13 Ram 1500 Longhorn - OMG, what a totally luxury vehicle !! Have not had chance to tow with it, but am sure it won't live up to the Cummins. Hmmmm, guess I am gonna own TWO trucks now ! LOL . . .

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#2459570 - 03/01/18 05:21 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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not getting rid of my 06 1 owner 124k miles, infact just got thru servicing the trans including a band adjustment this morning.

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#2459625 - 03/01/18 07:39 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Once you tow with a diesel, you will never want to tow with a gas powered truck again! Mytruck gains speed towing uphill, I used to have to get a run on a hill in my gas powered Ram 2500.


Been there done that and not impressed.

What I am always impressed with how big the repair bills I write for them are, even the cummins that is by far the cheapest to keep running is still very expensive. Give me a 392 BGE or V10 anyday of the week. I can buy a complete v10 for $500 with very low miles vs $500 for two injectors on a cummins. $5000 dollar minimum for head gaskets on a duramax (we actually do more of those here than 6.0 6.4 power jokes). I think people are getting tired of paying thousands of dollars for injectors, thousands of dollars for head gaskets, thousand dollars here and there for fuel pumps, nowhere near the MPG people claim... they are just finding out the new diesels are not all there cracked up to be and the old 12 valve while they were a solid, fairly efficent engine in their day are now 20+ years old and no matter how good people make something eventually they do wear out. When you can buy a nice gas older truck for $5000 less than a nice diesel there will be a glut on the market.
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#2459634 - 03/01/18 08:01 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I've went back to a gasser after I sold my cummins pickup. The towing isn't as bad as you guys make it out to be. The worst thing most guys do is get an automatic, which turns them into turds.

Lots of diesels for sale around here. Most are high milers, I'm sure the engines are still good but the rest is worn out. Front ends, brakes, axle seals, the usual transmission woes, the list goes on. The other problem I have is one critical component on a cummins costs more to replace than I can rebuild an entire gas v8 for.

Mileage in the summer was good. Not great as some diesel fanboys cliam, but good. In winter it was worse on fuel than a gas truck. I miss the sound and feel of driving the diesel but I was able to replace it with a comparable gas Ram with less miles for 1/3 of what I sold the cummins truck for. The diesels have their place for sure, but for someone like me who only needs a truck a few times a month and wants to daily drive something else, the cummins just doesn't make sense.

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#2459650 - 03/01/18 08:24 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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I just bought an 07 5.9 Cummins last year. I had an 05 5.7 with tow package. Going over the Rockies with an enclosed trailer with a diesel makes a HUGE difference. Wished I would have bought a diesel years ago. No regrets.

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#2459662 - 03/01/18 08:35 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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WOW....everyone is so down on the high mileage Cummins.... No need to be as long as they are taken care of properly?? I currently have an 01 that I picked up with 327,000 miles and an automatic (no blow by) and I can guarantee it will out run and out tow most gas powered trucks out there with equal weight. We have trucks running around here with 3, 4, 5 and 600,000 miles...probably more on them that run better than mine...
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#2459716 - 03/01/18 09:55 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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What’s the point in having a 300k capable powertrain if the body rusts away in 150k?

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#2459740 - 03/01/18 10:24 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: finn]
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Originally Posted By finn
What’s the point in having a 300k capable powertrain if the body rusts away in 150k?


Who says mine is rusted away or ours are rusted away?? Depends on what area of the country you are talking about?
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#2459743 - 03/01/18 10:25 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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2006 3500 drw 2wd, 5.9 cummins.. My daily driver and service truck, 450,000 km's, will still start at -30C without being plugged in, everything still works in the inside. The drivers seat is getting worn out, but it has no significant rust to speak of, even being driven daily through Canadian winters. It has a service box on the back that weighs about 2000 lbs with all the tools in it. Its getting the same mileage as when I bought it.. I went through my receipts, to date I have purchased 48 tires for this truck since I bought it in 08..

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#2459752 - 03/01/18 10:57 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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These posts always bring out the diesel hater laugh2 It's the same thing every time... looks like pretty much the same people too.

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#2459761 - 03/01/18 11:37 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert]
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.


The lift pump issues seem to be more likely on 2004 and older Rams. So far no transmission issues, but I change the fluid regularly and I use only Mopar ATF 4 fluid. The last time I changed the fluid, I found most of the snap ring for the overdrive unit in the pan so I had to replace that,but I caught it before it became an issue. I change the oil every six thousand miles, and change the fuel filter every other oil change. I use only Wix filters,and either Rotella,or Cummins formulated Valvoline oil.

Move the lift pump off the block and back by the tank (just like a drag car), and throw a new one at it every 100K for cheap insurance. I haven't killed a VP pump yet on my 01 6 speed, 205k miles, bought new. (knock on wood)... 7500 oil changes, fuel filter every other oil change. I haven't done much towing - anyone have any idea on clutch life is normal? My dash is cracked and I've already replaced the driver's seat cushion and bottom upholstery. I have a new dash and cluster bezel - when I get ready to replace the a/c system and heater core I'll do the dash - for now a velcro carpet cover hides all the glued together cracks.

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#2459778 - 03/02/18 01:19 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
The worst thing most guys do is get an automatic, which turns them into turds.

That's the only option in a gas truck anymore. Finding a gas 3/4 or 1 ton with a clutch is virtually impossible.
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#2459779 - 03/02/18 01:23 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst]
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Originally Posted By RalphsRapidTrnst
Nope! Keeping both of mine.
what year is your Scotty? I had a 95, but it had the v10. was ok as long as you stayed under 75 mph over that and it would gulp fuel big time!!

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#2459834 - 03/02/18 08:02 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Id like to have a older cummins but my 96 power stroke 4x4 stick just hit 80k miles and I really like the truck and actually I could get more for it now then I paid for it new by watching current ebay listings.

Its a good truck I can work on so....meh.

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#2459846 - 03/02/18 08:21 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: EV2Bird]
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
Id like to have a older cummins but my 96 power stroke 4x4 stick just hit 80k miles and I really like the truck and actually I could get more for it now then I paid for it new by watching current ebay listings.

Its a good truck I can work on so....meh.
Im on my 5th 7.3 powerstroke. Everyone hit the 400k mike mark without an injector or anything major replaced and I put them up for sale at the point. I bought this truck I have now a 2000 f-250 4 years ago with 54k miles on it and it’s my first auto. I did the 6.0 transmission cooler upgrade and so far at 170k miles I’ve only replaced a glow plug relay, 1 front end and a set of wheel bearings. I pull a 8 ton camper with it all of the time. After I put a 400k on this one not sure what I’ll buy then, i still have a few years.


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#2459866 - 03/02/18 09:24 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: 70RT Charger]
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I still tow everything with my good ole 96' Ram with a V10. It will still pull anything behind it like a diesel will I just don't get as good mileage. Never needed to upgrade to a Diesel. Not worth it to me (yet). I only drive & 7 miles back & forth to work. I tow my cars & everyone elses to & from Milan, Norwalk, Ubly, Stanton & Martin Michigan. All within a 1 to 3 hour drive or so. No problems pulling my 28' enclosed loaded with tools, equipment , golf cart & race cars. She is staring to get wore out & rusting off of the frame due to Michigan winters.

Next truck will be another rust free V10 dually or finally a diesel dually maybe someday. I just can't see paying $25K for trucks with up to or over 250K miles.
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#2459878 - 03/02/18 09:59 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: OhioMopar]
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
The worst thing most guys do is get an automatic, which turns them into turds.

That's the only option in a gas truck anymore. Finding a gas 3/4 or 1 ton with a clutch is virtually impossible.


I know. It's pathetic.

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#2459882 - 03/02/18 10:06 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I'm on my 5th diesel, 3 Cummins and 2 Duramaxes. The DM's were ok, no real problems with them but what a PITA to work on. I hate GM's for that. I also didn't like the Allison shift schedule. I've had a V10 truck also and yes it would pull my 30' enclosed with no problems but damn you could literally watch the fuel gauge moving to E.

I had 2 VE pumped 12 valves and a 24 valve 06. That was a nice truck and with a tuner set on "plaid" man that thing moved for a 7800 pound truck.

I love my 1st Gen CTD though. I've done a lot of work to the truck and turned the wick up on the engine a little and this thing is awesome and still knocks down 23-24 MPG if I keep the speed around 70 MPH. But make no mistake with a lock up converter in it I can roll into the throttle at 70 and be doing 95 in no time with more to spare. Not sure where it would top out at but I don't need to drive it that fast. My first '89 bought new with a 5 speed and just a few tweaks would do over 100 MPH for hours at a time pulling a loaded open car trailer.
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#2459960 - 03/02/18 01:13 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
The worst thing most guys do is get an automatic, which turns them into turds.

That's the only option in a gas truck anymore. Finding a gas 3/4 or 1 ton with a clutch is virtually impossible.


I know. It's pathetic.


Not virtually impossible. GM, Ford and Dodge ALL do not have a manual gas truck.

Only Dodge will sell you a Diesel with a manual currently and that is derated to 350HP

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#2459981 - 03/02/18 01:43 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Morty426]
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Originally Posted By Morty426
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
The worst thing most guys do is get an automatic, which turns them into turds.

That's the only option in a gas truck anymore. Finding a gas 3/4 or 1 ton with a clutch is virtually impossible.


I know. It's pathetic.


Not virtually impossible. GM, Ford and Dodge ALL do not have a manual gas truck.

Only Dodge will sell you a Diesel with a manual currently and that is derated to 350HP


I meant used, as well. I've seen come out there. Even ran across a couple Power Wagons with a clutch and the 4.56(?)gears.
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#2460024 - 03/02/18 03:21 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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#2460799 - 03/04/18 08:55 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: megajoltman]
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Traded my '06 2500 qc sb 4x4 in for a '16 Challenger SXT for the wife last September. She was having too much trouble getting in and out anymore even with step bars. I really miss it but the peace of mind was worth it not to mention the 50 cent per gallon less for regular and the 24 mpg she gets in it vs. the 17-18 the truck got. wink



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#2460890 - 03/04/18 11:13 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I'd sell mine in a heartbeat but it's quite modified so I'm thinking that it would turn off most buyers. It's a 2002 2500 qc 4x4. With the programmer turned up half way it put down 484hp on the dyno and can tow with ease.

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#2461004 - 03/04/18 02:57 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I'm going to be in the market for a diesel dually here soon. Mid to late 90s I think. The nicer, the better equipped, the lower the miles, the closer to mint, the better.

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#2461705 - 03/05/18 07:13 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Never selling mine.

Thankfully when I bought her used, she already had a built w/billet trans (automatic) and a FASS lift pump.

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#2461884 - 03/06/18 02:10 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Dually's aren't cheap in CA. I still pay more than $300 a year for registration for a 14 year old pickup! Now the criminal's have upped the ante on diesel by .20 per gallon. $3.59-$3.79 here within 100 miles of BUKU refineries. I believe that the reg. fee went UP by $150! Guess I'll find out next Dec. I average about $70 an oil change every 5K with the fuel filter every 10K. My pickup was daily driven for the first 6 years of it's life. I HATE buying tires for this thing! At $220 or more a piece. I have had nothing but Goodyear tires. I got 100,000 miles + out of the original tires and brake pads. I bought one new set of 5 and threw the spare into the mix. At about 180K on the odometer I bought 2 new for the front as some buddies borrowed it to tow a car to Van Nuys. I would have drove it, I just didn't want them having any problems. Turned out they blew two trailer tires and only had one spare! laugh At about 220K I bought 4 more. I just bought two more new and two more used at 270K. I don't think they last as long as the originals because they aren't rotated as often. I bought a dealer contract for free service for the first 100K. Oil change and tire rotation every 3-4K. I am changing the oil tomorrow as I may have a drive to Houston in the near future. Yes! I love it but it's a pretty expensive tool... wrench

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#2462072 - 03/06/18 01:57 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Heres the deal, the old mechanical injected diesels earned a well deserved reputation for being cheap and reliable, the old 12valves were great, fuel used to be dirt cheap and they hardly used any of it at that so the more expensive oil changes were nothing. My old 93 12 valve I used to run on used oil, tranny fluid, diff fluid... from the honda dealer. Fast forward to now you got to have aftermarket lift pumps added, emmisions deletes, crappy fuel with no sulfer and forget about running on used engine oil, they are so expensive to operate and maintain, complicated to work on. They used to be so simple but they have lost that, they used to be cheap to fuel, they have lost that, used to be cheap to maintain, they have lost that, used to be cheap when they did have an issue, they have lost that. I had a guy trying to trade me a 99 quad cab auto 4x4 diesel with 200,000 for my 2011 1500 and I told him not a chance, he got all defensive and "don't I know what a cummins worth", bla bla bla, but his truck is the one we just did injectors, and injection pump on that cost more than my complete engine did(bad cam at 300,000 but the rest of the engine looks new inside still). Those things just lost all apeal to me after the middle of 98 and now those are a minimum of 20 years old so theres that to consider also... If I did a trade it would only be because I thought I could sell it for more than mine, not because I would ever want to drive one myself.
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#2462099 - 03/06/18 03:05 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: HotRodDave]
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I find myself agreeing with Dave. I have been researching PowerSmoke Diesels for a workmate and boy oh boy are they demanding. Another friend just absolutely loved his SuperDuty until he needed $5000 worth of new injectors and associated parts. This was a completely stock truck, it just started running rough. The maintenance costs blew that truck right out the door. Let someone else fix it. www.powerstrokehelp.com is very informative especially the videos.

One point he makes is that the Diesel requires a much more careful approach to repairs because tolerances are so tight. Late model common rail trucks running more than 20,000psi fuel pressure is one example.

Even though I enjoyed driving the '99 CTD 5-speed, it was probably hard on the engine because my commute is only 3 miles.

I can see the big pulling power of the Diesel as a plus if one tows all the time, but for a once per year tow it's overkill.

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#2462121 - 03/06/18 03:29 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: dogdays]
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Originally Posted By dogdays
I find myself agreeing with Dave. I have been researching PowerSmoke Diesels for a workmate and boy oh boy are they demanding. Another friend just absolutely loved his SuperDuty until he needed $5000 worth of new injectors and associated parts. This was a completely stock truck, it just started running rough. The maintenance costs blew that truck right out the door. Let someone else fix it. www.powerstrokehelp.com is very informative especially the videos.


Same story here with our service truck with the 6.4 powerjoke. All was good until some exhaust problems and the turbo blew. 4200 bucks later it was back on the road until not much later and something internally let go and metal shavings got into the injector pump and injectors and ate everything. They had to lift the cab to do that one. That one was north of 10 grand all said and done. No thanks.

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#2462127 - 03/06/18 03:45 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: dogdays]
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I bought an 2004 3/4 ton quad cab laramie CTD automatic brand new and sold it with 300K on it, no engine or trans problems, lots of towing. I replaced it with a nice used 2005 1 ton dually quad cab laramie CTD automatic with 51K miles. Have 208K on it now. Love those trucks!


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#2462142 - 03/06/18 04:01 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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That streak running across the road looks like "Transmission fluid to me".


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#2462371 - 03/06/18 09:42 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Dave Hall]
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
There's a 5K fix and it's called ATS. My '04 has 296,000 and will be the last pickup I will own.


I preferred my $1400 fix on my 01. Goerend converter and valve body kit, borg warner overhaul kit..... towing bliss since 2004 smile

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#2462379 - 03/06/18 10:08 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I live at 500ft and any direction I go with the race trailer in tow I'll shortly be at 3500ft. Even when diesel was $4.99 a gal a few years ago, there's no way a gas truck would work like my 01 CTD works. BTW I'm only at 17,800lb combined, but with 3.5 gear.... that's about all the heavier I'd go with that set up.

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#2462381 - 03/06/18 10:19 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Silver70]
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Not hardly!







Besides, the bottom half matches the trailer laugh



Edited by dmoore (03/06/18 10:23 PM)

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#2462486 - 03/07/18 08:35 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I know this is about Cummins but my job always bought fords. F450/550 with a big walk in utility service box. They had 8-10 on the road. was buying them like that for years. When they replaced the last of the 7.3 fleet with 6.0 maybe 2 years and all hell broke loose. It was like there was At least one broke at all times. He dealt with that for a couple years and was selling them with less than 100,000 miles. I couldn't believe what they had to sell them for. Out of that fleet there was one v10 and it outlasted all of them. It was kind of funny to watch. There was a couple f150 that were overloaded all the time and they were troublefree. I even had a ranger that was loaded as a work truck and it never broke, with 225,000 miles. it Didn't make any sense. After that run with the 6.0 he swore off diesels, then after the spark plug issues with the mod motors he swore off fords. Now they just buy gas Chevy 2500 pickups.
I didn't know a whole lot about diesels but I saw that deal with the 6.0 and decided I'd probably never own a diesel if that's what it was like.

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#2462598 - 03/07/18 12:16 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: JAMESDART]
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The superduty guy says he routinely takes apart 6.4s and there isn't a single part he can use for a rebuild. His solution is a rebuilt engine from Ford. I looked up the part number and it's right at $20,000!

R.

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#2462643 - 03/07/18 01:28 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: dogdays]
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Originally Posted By dogdays
The superduty guy says he routinely takes apart 6.4s and there isn't a single part he can use for a rebuild. His solution is a rebuilt engine from Ford. I looked up the part number and it's right at $20,000!

R.


The 6.0 and 6.4 are basically 150K engines. Throw a tuner and some exhaust upgrades on them and they won't even get that far. Junk.
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#2462774 - 03/07/18 05:38 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Ford did a good job on the 6.7L though, that is a great engine.
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#2462790 - 03/07/18 06:11 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Bad340fish]
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Ford did a good job on the 6.7L though, that is a great engine.


Right after they came out the local dealer was replaceing them for some reason, they had 3 in the shop for engines when I walked through their service bays about a year after they came out, don't know what that was about.

Except the ocasional $3000 turbo failure we have not seen many come through my shop yet but they are only what 7 years old?
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#2462981 - 03/08/18 02:20 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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When I start seeing them at 25 years old with 300K on the clock and they haven't been cracked open then we'll know if they are any good or not.
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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc conversion. Hydroboost coming soon
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NP435, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Magnum 5.2 MPI and NV4500 coming soon.
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#2463038 - 03/08/18 09:32 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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I’ve seen a pile of diesels for sale. Seems like the big diesel trend is slowly dying now for the crowd that just had to have a diesel. Weve had them all in our fleets for the past 20 years and they all break down. I’d say the best fleet of truck we ever had was the 99.5 and up 7.3 powerstrokes and the biggest weak link in them was the 7 core transmission cooler in the Autos.

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#2463078 - 03/08/18 10:40 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: 70RT Charger]
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Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
I’ve seen a pile of diesels for sale. Seems like the big diesel trend is slowly dying now for the crowd that just had to have a diesel. Weve had them all in our fleets for the past 20 years and they all break down. I’d say the best fleet of truck we ever had was the 99.5 and up 7.3 powerstrokes and the biggest weak link in them was the 7 core transmission cooler in the Autos.


And the horrible fuel mileage... tsk
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#2463503 - 03/08/18 10:10 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5]
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Seems to be less for sale here than usual last I looked... so can't say I see any type of trend like that here. I want to find an 03-05 rust bucket cummins and put the body from my 04 hemi on it and can't find many.

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#2463554 - 03/08/18 11:45 PM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Silver70]
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Sold my 33 ft camper, race car and 28 ft race trailer and bought a class A motor home last year. Didn’t have a need for the big 07 Cummins dully any longer. It only had 56K on the odometer. I only used it for towing my trailers. Also the Michigan winters had taken its toll on my 84 Dodge 1/2 ton pu so it was ready to be put out to pasture. Tried to sell the Cummins but everyone thinks they need a 4X4, mine was a two wheel, so no takers. Ended up trading it in for a new 1500 Hemi. No regrets.
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#2463652 - 03/09/18 09:15 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: pittsburghracer]
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
My 2006 isn’t going anywhere. I think it just rolled over 85000 miles


I have a 2006 3500 SRW 4x4 that I bought brand new and I love it. I am pushing 120,000 miles myself. You have one of the few with less miles than mine has. I'm planning to definitely keep mine until 250K and then I'll evaluate as we go. I may just drive it until it drops.

<knock on wood> I've had virtually no issues with it although I had to replace the lift pump about 2-3 weeks ago. Only other issue of note was that I've gone through 2 water pumps so far. I think that's pretty good for having had it nearly 12 years. Everything else has just been maintenance (which I do religiously) or very minor issues.


Edited by Joatha (03/09/18 09:22 AM)
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#2463686 - 03/09/18 10:15 AM Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Dabee]
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Registered: 04/23/07
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Originally Posted By Dabee
Sold my 33 ft camper, race car and 28 ft race trailer and bought a class A motor home last year. Didn’t have a need for the big 07 Cummins dully any longer. It only had 56K on the odometer. I only used it for towing my trailers. Also the Michigan winters had taken its toll on my 84 Dodge 1/2 ton pu so it was ready to be put out to pasture. Tried to sell the Cummins but everyone thinks they need a 4X4, mine was a two wheel, so no takers. Ended up trading it in for a new 1500 Hemi. No regrets.


Yeah, my 02 is 2WD, cause I only use it in summer, to tow and as a pick up . . . some say because of that, the 2WD trucks should be valued $8k LESS than a 4x4 . . .

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