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Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil #2457892
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So I am hearing now from a few reputable engine builders that Penn Grade semi synthetic oil is not the go to oil these days and they are having problems with it.
They said on some of their high end builds, the oil is not working out and they are burning up parts.
I need to buy oil and now not sure if the non synthetic dino oil is the way to go.
Any thoughts?

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457898
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Very few oils are the cause of engine issues. I've never used Brad Penn but I have a hard time believing the oil is an issue, unless they are using the wrong oil for the application.


Most of the boutique oil manufacturers make 7-8 different oils in many many grades. Could be they are using the incorrect oil for the job.


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457899
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Plenty of other choices if you're not comfortable with the Penn Grade stuff.

Driven
Red Line
Royal Purple
Torco
Champion
Lucas

To name a few


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: fast68plymouth] #2457904
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Plenty of other choices if you're not comfortable with the Penn Grade stuff.

Driven
Red Line
Royal Purple
Torco
Champion
Lucas

To name a few



Driven oil was recommended to me now from a reputable source thanks

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457917
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I'm planning on ditching the Brad Penn for this......

http://www.schaefferoil.com/racing.html

I had heard the Brad Penn has changed a bit since the company was sold. Can't verify this though.


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457926
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Which Driven oil would be the one to get?
I like 5W30 looks like it's a Joe Gibbs product

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457928
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LOL, all the while there are tons of engines making big power on parts store bought Valvoline, Mobil One, etc.


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457960
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Lucas hot rod oil is the best stuff i have ever used. Easily


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Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2457966
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I wish Best Machine would chime in on this one, they seem to make horse power and I'm pretty sure they don't use it anymore especially in their high end builds.

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: Sammy] #2458058
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I stopped using Brad Penn oil, and went to Schaeffers and Driven. Thats all I am going to say.


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Originally Posted By CompWedgeEngines
I stopped using Brad Penn oil, and went to Schaeffers and Driven. Thats all I am going to say.



Which Driven oil, theres a few different types. I'm thinking 5W30

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We stopped using BP years ago. A lot of the Engines that come in for freshen ups that run BP have worn rocker shafts and Piston Pins. We only use Driven Brand Oil, every Big Block we Dyno has BR50 in it. In a lot of our high HP Drag engine we use XP3 after dyno but in most cases the HR series oil is a good choice. We use the 15/50 in our bracket style engines.

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Many of my buddies run Brad Penn. The stuff feels slippery & doesn't like to come off of your skin but I have never been a fan either for the money. I just run whatever brand oil 10W30 is on sale at that moment when I am in the parts store. Never had an issue with any of them.

At work we just run 10W30 conventional in all of our crate engines & for the race engines we use the Rotella 15W40 Diesel oil.

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"Many of my buddies run Brad Penn. The stuff feels slippery & doesn't like to come off of your skin but I have never been a fan either for the money. I just run whatever brand oil 10W30 is on sale at that moment when I am in the parts store. Never had an issue with any of them.

" for the race engines we use the Rotella 15W40 Rotella Diesel oil."

Agree with all of the above!!

Mike

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I heard Brad Penn had a tendency to burn pushed tips same with Royal Purple Racing 21 oil.

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Originally Posted By 70satelliteguy
"Many of my buddies run Brad Penn. The stuff feels slippery & doesn't like to come off of your skin but I have never been a fan either for the money. I just run whatever brand oil 10W30 is on sale at that moment when I am in the parts store. Never had an issue with any of them.

" for the race engines we use the Rotella 15W40 Rotella Diesel oil."

Agree with all of the above!!

Mike
I run the same but also put some Lucas break in additive with it at each oil change.

Re: Getting mixed feelings on Penn Grade Oil [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #2458400
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Originally Posted By CompWedgeEngines
I stopped using Brad Penn oil, and went to Schaeffers and Driven. Thats all I am going to say.

Considering you used to be one of the Brad Penn proponents, that a significant statement even without any further comments.

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Originally Posted By Sammy
I heard Brad Penn had a tendency to burn pushed tips same with Royal Purple Racing 21 oil.

I heard it causes hemorrhoids, too, but do my best to filter out a lot of "static" I hear.

We broke in my engine on "legacy" Brad Penn 30 break-in, but I've got 7 quarts of Driven Hot Rod 10w40 conventional ready to replace it when I drain the pan.

There's also some Amsoil on my oil shelf that will get used if/when I decide to start using synthetics, again.

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Originally Posted By B3422W5
Lucas hot rod oil is the best stuff i have ever used. Easily

My issue w/ Lucas, and it could be completely irrational, is that I suspect their Marketing Dept has as much influence on what goes into their oils as their Engineering Dept. Have you seen some of the ZDDP #s they put in some of their oils? They are waaaaay off the "reasonable amount" scale and jumping right into the "too much of anything is NOT a good thing" range. down

It also appeared for quite a while that Lucas must have been giving sh!tloads of free product (or buying sh!tloads of advertising) to all the major magazines -- at least the ones that are left -- since virtually every dyno test article they ran used Lucas oil. work

I'll pass, thanks.

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Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By B3422W5
Lucas hot rod oil is the best stuff i have ever used. Easily

My issue w/ Lucas, and it could be completely irrational, is that I suspect their Marketing Dept has as much influence on what goes into their oils as their Engineering Dept. Have you seen some of the ZDDP #s they put in some of their oils? They are waaaaay off the "reasonable amount" scale and jumping right into the "too much of anything is NOT a good thing" range. down

It also appeared for quite a while that Lucas must have been giving sh!tloads of free product (or buying sh!tloads of advertising) to all the major magazines -- at least the ones that are left -- since virtually every dyno test article they ran used Lucas oil. work

I'll pass, thanks.


Your right.... lol...... might be completely irrational
I love the stuff, read lot of reviews from guys who have been using it a few years.
Great on cold startups after car has sat, clings really well


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