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Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: ProSport] #2455975
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Originally Posted By ProSport
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11" 2800 rated stall here. 3.54 gears in the Dana.

That combo works perfect with my 505" stroker!


Gotta love that torque cool up


Yeah a street car that pulls the front wheels at the track leaving off idle! LOL

My rev limiter is set at 6400.

Hopefully the addition of adjustable rear shocks and relocated upper mounts will get us into the 10's n/a this spring.

This combo is so much fun to drive!


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10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

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GY3 - whose converter? model# or name? flash RPM?

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Originally Posted By topside
GY3 - whose converter? model# or name? flash RPM?


Turbo Action 11" 2800 stall is all I recall.

I bought it brand new 8+ years ago so I don't recall much else.

I don't run a tach so no idea what it stalls. LOL


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: GY3] #2456125
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Originally Posted By GY3
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GY3 - whose converter? model# or name? flash RPM?



I don't run a tach so no idea what it stalls. LOL


LOL.

everyone is all about the latest greatest smaller converters but the old school Turbo Action 11" seems to still work ok huh?

how does the converter do with putting around? is it mushy feeling or pretty tight with little to moderate throttle input in high gear?

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Come to think of it, I'd really like to hear from you guys with similar combos about:

Whose converter/name/model #
Advertised stall
Actual stall & slip driving
Flash stall
Cost

Might be good info for the Archives.

Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: 70RT Charger] #2456575
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Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
That must suck to have these awesome big inch motors and can’t evem enjoy them on the street. That would be sad if a lonely little 446 would bust a stroker on the street because of the tall gears and big tall tires lol. Wait a minute, I’ve seen it before lol.


Until that stroker drives away from you because you run out of rpm.


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Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: krautrock] #2456621
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Originally Posted By krautrock
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Originally Posted By topside
GY3 - whose converter? model# or name? flash RPM?



I don't run a tach so no idea what it stalls. LOL


LOL.

everyone is all about the latest greatest smaller converters but the old school Turbo Action 11" seems to still work ok huh?

how does the converter do with putting around? is it mushy feeling or pretty tight with little to moderate throttle input in high gear?



Very tight. Love driving it around town and in traffic. I tried a 4500 stall and it simply did not work!


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: 70RT Charger] #2456622
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Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
That must suck to have these awesome big inch motors and can’t evem enjoy them on the street. That would be sad if a lonely little 446 would bust a stroker on the street because of the tall gears and big tall tires lol. Wait a minute, I’ve seen it before lol.


Post up some timeslips, Skippy.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: topside] #2456633
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I think Ehrenberg did a series in Mopar Action with a 500 cubic inch wedge. This was a 1969 Roadrunner. He was running 2.94 gears, and a Turbo Action Hemi converter. I believe the car was running low 12's. The big inch engine has so much torque it is easily able to overcome the tall gearing and the looser converter allows some rpm's at low speed. I run something similar to this in my 1968 Charger. While I don't have timeslips, I can tell you this is a fast combination and is very sweet to drive on the highways.

Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: GY3] #2456716
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My Duster ran 10.49 at 126 MPH with a the original Contintental 10 inch custom built converter, it went low 10.30s at 127.+ MPH with the Turbo Action 8 inch SS/AH Hemi converter in it and it was way easier to drive on the street and at the track shock The Hemi 8 inch race converter acted like a stock 11 inch street hemi converter until I hit it to WOT up My message is buy a really good high quality converter built for your engine and car combination for the type of driving YOU DO up twocents

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Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: topside] #2457064
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Another interesting thread I need to be watching. I have the cubes and the high gear, I just have a choose-your-own-stall-speed in it.
I love seeing these good times with a streetable gear. Although most are lighter than my boat.


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Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2457214
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
That must suck to have these awesome big inch motors and can’t evem enjoy them on the street. That would be sad if a lonely little 446 would bust a stroker on the street because of the tall gears and big tall tires lol. Wait a minute, I’ve seen it before lol.


Until that stroker drives away from you because you run out of rpm.
Your Probably right but I’ve got 6 gears and a magic button just Incase lol.

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Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
That must suck to have these awesome big inch motors and can’t evem enjoy them on the street. That would be sad if a lonely little 446 would bust a stroker on the street because of the tall gears and big tall tires lol. Wait a minute, I’ve seen it before lol.


Post up some timeslips, Skippy.
You know what we do with time slips on the street? We use them to wipe our ars with them.

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Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
That must suck to have these awesome big inch motors and can’t evem enjoy them on the street. That would be sad if a lonely little 446 would bust a stroker on the street because of the tall gears and big tall tires lol. Wait a minute, I’ve seen it before lol.


Post up some timeslips, Skippy.
You know what we do with time slips on the street? We use them to wipe our ars with them.


Most of the poser car show guys say this so their 800 hp and 9 second quater mile claims can never be disputed.

Make sure and stay way from the track so you can keep bragging about your car's performance.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Gearing a street/strip 500" BB [Re: topside] #2457320
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I'd like this thread to be more technical and an actual source of specific info, rather than a wiener contest.
Haven't heard back yet from 3 converter guys I've sent info to; since I don't know the true HP/TQ #s (no dyno/ET-MPH info), maybe they're reluctant to get specific.

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Originally Posted By topside
I'd like this thread to be more technical and an actual source of specific info, rather than a wiener contest.
Haven't heard back yet from 3 converter guys I've sent info to; since I don't know the true HP/TQ #s (no dyno/ET-MPH info), maybe they're reluctant to get specific.


Pretty hard to build a good converter without a dyno sheet.

Have you plugged your engine build specs into a dyno simulation program? That could get you close.

Kevin

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Topside, I think you'd be happy if you call and talk to ATI and order a custom built converter from them.


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There's also ALOT of local racers using Perfect Converter Company in Ohio with great results. If you call them ask for Bubba. He lives around the block from me.


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Originally Posted By 469runner
I think Ehrenberg did a series in Mopar Action with a 500 cubic inch wedge. This was a 1969 Roadrunner. He was running 2.94 gears, and a Turbo Action Hemi converter. I believe the car was running low 12's. The big inch engine has so much torque it is easily able to overcome the tall gearing and the looser converter allows some rpm's at low speed. I run something similar to this in my 1968 Charger. While I don't have timeslips, I can tell you this is a fast combination and is very sweet to drive on the highways.


The "Bold Beeper" ran a 3.23 in an 8 3/4" axle for awhile. It ran "Mid 11s" with that combo according to them. They then pulled the 727 and swapped in a "Kiesler 4L60E" 4 speed auto trans. I don't recall that they ever had any gear taller than that 3.23 but I do recall that they had a 3.55 for a short time.

Personally, I have ran several ratios in my 70 Charger. I have a 440 based 493 in the car.
I loved the 4.10s for snappy response at low speeds but 3850 rpms at 70 mph made it a pisser for the freeway. I've ran 3.23s for road trips and was pleased with them for the most part. I went with a 3.91 when I installed a Gear Vendors unit. That was a great combo but the GV had a few quirks so I pulled it out and sold it to a Moparts member that is quite happy with it now. I currently run a 3.55, a 28" tire and an 11" Converter from Ultimate Converter Concepts. Aside from gas mileage, the combo runs and performs great. I'd love to install a 4L60E 4 speed auto from SST but I'll have to save up a bit to get there. Lower freeway RPMS are not just a matter of better mileage, it is also much more comfortable. Lower RPMs= quieter, less vibrations and less wear on the engine.

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Originally Posted By ProSport
There's also ALOT of local racers using Perfect Converter Company in Ohio with great results. If you call them ask for Bubba. He lives around the block from me.

You seem to live around the block from nearly everything cool.


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