Re: Dana 60 in a Dart
[Re: DusTed74]
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02/18/18 05:37 PM
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If the rear was built for something else, it may not be configured correctly. Pinion offset, suspension mounting and wheel location have to be determined when the assembly is built. I see it all the time. Somebody gets a deal on a used rear axle and the driveshaft ends up running crooked in the car and/or the wheel location is different from one side to the other.
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Re: Dana 60 in a Dart
[Re: CMcAllister]
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02/18/18 11:41 PM
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If the engine is in the factory location then it will be offset to the passenger side by 1.375 (if I remember correctly) and the pinion will need to be offset a like amount.
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Re: Dana 60 in a Dart
[Re: DusTed74]
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02/18/18 11:53 PM
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Engine offset is 1.250 on most A body cars but it might vary by the year.
If you really want to see what is going on just slide a piece of roll bar tubing thru a bare block and transmission. The roll bar tubing should point right at the pinion yoke.
Last edited by AndyF; 02/19/18 01:36 AM.
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Re: Dana 60 in a Dart
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02/19/18 01:57 PM
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The tubing through the engine block kind of throws a me off. I thought there was supposed to be vertical separation between the output and pinion, with the flanges at parallel angles? Pinion tilted down slightly from there to make up for acceleration. That is the classic illustration but it doesn't always end up that way. On a car that has been lowered the engine and transmission are often slightly lower than the pinion so the driveshaft can run uphill. Sliding a long tube thru the engine and transmission case will tell you how your chassis is set up. Until you do that you might not know since it is really hard to measure all of the small angles.
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Re: Dana 60 in a Dart
[Re: DusTed74]
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02/19/18 03:37 PM
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If you are using stock location engine/transmission mounts on a backhalfed, big tire car, driveshaft operating angles are usually wonky to some degree. Never run a positive operating angle on the rear u-joint to get the pinion parallel with the trans output shaft, which is typically about 3* down with OE mounts. If the engine is being put in on motor plates this can be corrected, or at least made better, by lowering and/or dropping the front of the engine some.
We always stringline the car, locate the C/L of the chassis and make the driveline C/L parallel with the chassis C/L. Maintain the offset from the front of the crank to the rear u-joint.
Last edited by CMcAllister; 02/19/18 03:42 PM.
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