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who runs torque straps, limiters? #2454592
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I don't have time to fabricate solid motor mounts or install elephant ears. I'd like to get by this year with a limiter on the driver side of the motor. I like to go from the head to the drivers side frame rail, but worry about adding a shear load to the head bolts. Where ya'll put yours?

Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454599
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I've used torque straps forever to save the left motor mount when foot braking and on stick shift cars, even used chains with a turn buckle for a little while shruggy work
I used the power steering boss on the water pump to bolt to the 1/4x1 inch wide strap to the left front sub frames, my current street car, ex drag race car, has a piece of aluminum 1x1x.085 aluminum angle on it that worked well also up


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454623
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Yup, good location; accessory bolt locations on front of head are also good. I've used either one depending on engine for years without an issue.
If you use a rigid strut kind of strap, you'll probably notice a little added vibration transmitted, but it's never bothered me.

Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454641
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The torque strap that schumacher sells is a nice piece.


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454655
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The old trick is to use a rubber mount on the left side and use what is essentially half of a motor plate and call it a strap.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454659
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I have a chain on mine but have thought about buying a set of Poly Locks, but man they are expensive!

Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: Bad340fish] #2454671
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
The torque strap that schumacher sells is a nice piece.

iagree


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2454678
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I use the Schumacher piece as well.

Easy to install and very clean looking.

My Early B has a habit of tearing the drivers side in half!


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454696
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I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this also. I have heard of some guys using a solid MM on the drivers side and a stock rubber on the passenger side.

I have also heard of using a regular MM but drilling and running a bolt through it. I think Mancini sells something called a mega mount which looks like the same thing. Seems like a simple cheap thing to do yourself but I haven't tried it yet.

Thanks,

Steve

Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: srunge55] #2454708
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This is what I made. 1/4” steel sandwiched between the isolator and mount

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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: srunge55] #2454709
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Originally Posted By srunge55
I have heard of some guys using a solid MM on the drivers side and a stock rubber on the passenger side.


A big part of using a strap or motorplate is to remove the stress and shock from the left side of the block where the mount is bolted. This would make it worse.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: CMcAllister] #2454712
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Picture no work!

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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454815
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Just curious, but who has seen a block get damaged from a solid motor mount on the driver's side?
Our SB has the solid mount pushing about 650HP and still going strong.


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454818
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A simple hardware store turn buckle will do just fine and not look too bad.



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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: DaveRS23] #2454823
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Another one...............



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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: DaveRS23] #2454857
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I made my own with a piece of threaded rod and two heim ends with a piece of plastic tubing over the threaded rod. It goes from the bolt on the front of the head to the motor mount boss on the K frame. I was worried when i went from the W2 head engine to the 408 with Indy 360-1 heads that it would`t fit but it did in almost exactly the same place. Whats nice is that it is adjustable up or down if need be

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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: GY3] #2454874
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I just installed a Schumaker strap a few weeks ago. No drive time yet but I too was wondering if there can be any damage from bolting these onto the motor mount bracket hole. I assume the motor mount helps to support the block when mounting the strap at this location.


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454878
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Has anyone used the Shumacher Poly-Locs?


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: superchuck] #2454916
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I run a Moroso solid mount on the driver side, stock mount on the pass side. I’ve heard people say that this could be hard on the block, But I’ve never seen someone’s block fail at the motor mount. I don’t make a lot of power either, so I think I’m safe.


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Re: who runs torque straps, limiters? [Re: OhioMopar] #2454946
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Yes the polylocs work good. The motor stays in place and does not shake like aftermarket junk. I have put them on several shaker hood cars to save the shaker, worth the money to stop damage. The strap is also nice, have one on my 340 4-speed, made shifting way better also.

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