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Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: tex013] #2446496
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Originally Posted By tex013
Originally Posted By markz528
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Read the 270 articles that I've written and study the pictures. You'll see that I used standard offset rocker arms on the 270 heads and that I've used a standard port intake on the 270 heads.

It might not be "ideal" but it can get you up and running and then6 you can upgrade from there.

Andy ,
You say you used an offset rocker . Trickflow on Summit show Harland Sharp S70015KE , which lists for a Edelbrock rpm on HS site
Victors are listed as using S70015EVK which are .650 offset
So do the 270s use non offset or offset ?

Tex


Not offset. S700115KE supposedly corrects geometry issues with the Trick Flos. Just bought a set.

Thanks markz528
So you could possibly use the Crane standard rocker if geometry works ?
I know it sounds like I am beating this to death BUT if I go this way I am looking at over $1300 of my quality Aussie dollars plus shipping .

Tex


Did you read the rocker arm article I wrote? I tried a bunch of different rocker arms on Trick Flow heads. There shouldn't be a lot of questions left after reading that article. I tried basically everything that is currently available.

Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: markz528] #2446512
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thanks markz528


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Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2446613
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Andy ,
I am not being a smart ar$e .
I have seen some of your rocker info re the 240 head and you said Cranes were fine . All I have seen on the 270 was your pictures/dyno test and use of offset high ratio ones.
TrickFlow list a non offset rocker . markz528 also notes the listed rocker is not offset

Quote from Summit -
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Do these heads run an offset rocker??
Asked by KEITH E on September 12, 2017
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Thank you for your question. The Trick Flow Specialties TFS-61617801-C01 cylinder heads do not require an offset rocker arm. They use all factory-style big block Mopar shaft mount rockers.
Summit Racing Answer - October 16, 2017

If you can link your rocker test , would be great .
Someone's wires may be crossed .

Tex


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New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2446621
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The 240's and 270's use the same rockers.

Std offset, like what you'd use on a stock head or RPM head.


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Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: tex013] #2446627
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Originally Posted By tex013
Andy ,
I am not being a smart ar$e .
I have seen some of your rocker info re the 240 head and you said Cranes were fine . All I have seen on the 270 was your pictures/dyno test and use of offset high ratio ones.
TrickFlow list a non offset rocker . markz528 also notes the listed rocker is not offset

Quote from Summit -
Q:
Do these heads run an offset rocker??
Asked by KEITH E on September 12, 2017
A:
Thank you for your question. The Trick Flow Specialties TFS-61617801-C01 cylinder heads do not require an offset rocker arm. They use all factory-style big block Mopar shaft mount rockers.
Summit Racing Answer - October 16, 2017

If you can link your rocker test , would be great .
Someone's wires may be crossed .

Tex



Go look at the TF270 articles and you'll see that I used the same exact rocker arms as on the TF240. Both the 240 and the 270 use standard offset rocker arms.

Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2446703
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Thanks

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2446730
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Where would the Indy little ez 295 or 325 compare to the TF 240,270? They use standard rockers.

Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2446857
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Trick Flow heads are a better value.

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Has anybody used this part that trickflow came out with ??

Trick Flow Specialties TFS-61600830 - Trick Flow Specialties Valley Pans and Gaskets

Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: DoubleD] #2446973
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I used the valley plate for the 400 block. Its a nice quality part but there is a good gap between the plate and the head that needs to be filled with RTV. I think this part is only for the MW/270 head, the standard port/240 uses a valley pan.

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Originally Posted By srunge55
I used the valley plate for the 400 block. Its a nice quality part but there is a good gap between the plate and the head that needs to be filled with RTV. I think this part is only for the MW/270 head, the standard port/240 uses a valley pan.
I used Andy's valley plate and bat wing gasket system and it works quite well with my TF 240's.


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Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2449304
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Well I just ordered the Trick flow 270 heads. They should be here next week. Thanks everyone for the advise and suggestions. I am looking forward to getting my hands on these heads. Is there anything that I need to do before I bolt them on?

Thanks again,

Digger73 (Mike)


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Originally Posted By Digger73
Well I just ordered the Trick flow 270 heads. They should be here next week. Thanks everyone for the advise and suggestions. I am looking forward to getting my hands on these heads. Is there anything that I need to do before I bolt them on?

Thanks again,

Digger73 (Mike)

Only thing i have read is check valve guide clearance , can be a little tight

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: dartman366] #2449417
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how can I get a set of those bat wing spacers andy makes

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Heads came today! They look AWESOME! I can't wait for the weekend to start installing them. smile

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Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Digger73] #2451580
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Originally Posted By Digger73
Heads came today! They look AWESOME! I can't wait for the weekend to start installing them. smile

Digger73 (Mike)

Look forward to your results . Please let us know which rocker setup you use and how they fit up . Plus of cause how they perform on your engine package

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
Re: Victor or Trickflow heads most bang for the buck? [Re: Furys] #2451581
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Originally Posted By Furys
how can I get a set of those bat wing spacers andy makes

Got mine through Mancini . Have to wait till June mid season winter break to fit them up

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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that is not a aggressive cam at all try not to have heads that flow too many cfm compared to lift as you will have the volume but not the velocity of air and you will have a high revving dog of a motor. Compared to a head that is suited to your cam. I am not a mechanic but the camshaft to me sets the pace. It is the foundation. Understand what it wants and you will have a successful build. Get it wrong and you will have wasted your time and money. Buy your came from somewhere like summit racing and talk to the folks in there tech department. No I do not work there I am from Canada but those folks will steer you in the right direction. Other than that get a desk top Dyno heard they are fairly accurate. Everyone want a simple answer but simple answer are not so simple. I am new and actually signed up because I couldn’t find answer that made sense. You Mopar guys really safe guard your info. Weird

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When it comes to guys, gals now also, and drag racing there are several different types of guys, gals and racers. Some that will help and some that won't shruggy
Some of those that will share info that have valid info, there are others that will share with you what they know but may not fully understand how to tell you useable information and their are some of those that will intentionally mislead you when you ask them for help rant
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