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#2445403 - 02/02/18 07:33 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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Says the guy with a Volare' for an avatar!

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#2445404 - 02/02/18 07:38 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Says the guy with a Volare' for an avatar!



Yes, your avatar SCREAMS Mopar...

(Along with, 'Go Pats'...


And yes, WHO CARES about plastic???


I'll bet there are 6,987,652 Plastipala web sites...


Run to them...

Run fast...

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#2445417 - 02/02/18 08:34 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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#2445418 - 02/02/18 08:40 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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On the back of that Volare it says
"Bowties are for nerds", words to live by. I would much rather work on an old any thing than a Corvette, when I worked for myself not one got in the door.
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#2445473 - 02/02/18 11:48 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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#2445515 - 02/03/18 02:45 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: RUNCHARGER]
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Originally Posted By RUNCHARGER


My god... if i wanted one ov those i could buy three ov them for 4K. They're worthless. Even the stick cars pull less than that... even here in British 'Corvettes at triple Blue-book value' Columbia....

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#2445518 - 02/03/18 02:51 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Twostick]
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Originally Posted By Twostick


Jesus, that ad was painful. Not even sure exactly what i'm looking at there. Seems like a decent deal if you want a rag? One could make up some money by selling that rat stuff too...

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#2445945 - 02/03/18 08:46 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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God dammit... I think i need a split window Vette now...

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#2446051 - 02/04/18 12:21 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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They are definitely my favorite year of all of them except this latest one. If you have the means I say go for it! You only go around once and it would be rare to lose money on it if you decided you didn't want to be there. Buddy has a '69 Z28 in that "Sunfire" yellow.

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#2446066 - 02/04/18 01:47 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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I do not have the means.

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#2446186 - 02/04/18 10:39 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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If your buddy thinks E bodys cost a lot just wait till he starts to fix up the bargin vett he thinks he found then bought. as said the frames rot the suspension parts rot the brakes will be totally shot unless someone shot their nut on all new brakes then realized the frame of the car was rotted in two...don't ask me how I know (no it was not me). then you need to pull the body off the frame and eather rebuild yours or get one that has been re built and hope it was done on a good jig and is strait. the rear suspention has about a million parts... all will be worn out or NG...If you don't know how to repair this stuff its a steep learning curve or you need to find some one who does. Not telling you not to do it but don't ever think its cheeper than an E body. its not
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#2446249 - 02/04/18 12:10 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: yella71]
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The Guy that lives behind me has an Early 70's (egg crate gills) sitting under a car port for about 12 years now.....very sad.

Love the 63-67 and the 68-69, as far as handling I guess they were okay, but not really even that good for their day, compared to say an old BMW 2002 the vette was not even in the same leauge back then; It's sad to think today a typical new Accord or Camry could outlap a stock one on a road course. The IRS transverse leaf set up can be modernized with Fiberglass leaf springs and with modern rubber and light wheels would probably help things out a bunch. The frame (assuming you found a good one) is kinda flexy at the limit but I'm sure there are 50+ years of suspension tuning tricks to discover if you ask the right people.

As for a motor, I think I'd go old school SB 327 (3.25 stroke) with 6" rods in a Dart 4.125 bore Block (for 347 inches) but with some brodix heads, EFI and a small Bullet Street solid roller like the Ultradyne .4033 grind for a 7200+ redline, then couple that to a close ratio Tremec with an aluminum flywheel and 3.73-ish gears....then go have a blast. drive


Edited by Streetwize (02/04/18 12:17 PM)
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#2446252 - 02/04/18 12:14 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Pale_Roader]
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My daily driver is a 2012 Vette. It replaced my 01 z06 which my neighbor now owns. It’s up to 320 k miles now. Mine is at 65 k miles. I have always steered clear of the older Vettes for fear of frame and birdcage rot. A lot of perfumed pigs out there.
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#2446254 - 02/04/18 12:19 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Dave Hall]
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
They are definitely my favorite year of all of them except this latest one. If you have the means I say go for it! You only go around once and it would be rare to lose money on it if you decided you didn't want to be there. Buddy has a '69 Z28 in that "Sunfire" yellow.


Sunfire is a totally different color than Glodwood. Never used on any other car than 65 vette. The sunfire is bright yellow and goldwood is closer to beige. Sunfire was used on 66 & 67 vettes.

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#2446255 - 02/04/18 12:19 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: 69superbee383]
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Those old first gen LS 5.7 Z06's are a steal price/value wise, noone seems to want them since the second gen had the dry sump 427 and a lot more power...but still awesome cars that would run rings around earlier generation Vettes.

My uncle Frank had a Marina Blue hardtop convertable '65 327 Vette 4 speed, always loved that car


Edited by Streetwize (02/04/18 12:22 PM)
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#2446545 - 02/04/18 07:34 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: 69superbee383]
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Originally Posted By 69superbee383
My daily driver is a 2012 Vette. It replaced my 01 z06 which my neighbor now owns. It’s up to 320 k miles now.


Hey... how did you like that '01 Z06? I'm looking to get into an '02-'04 Z06 later this year for a daily driver. I've done a ton ov research on them and i really cant find a single flaw, aside from the C5 looks. Hell, even the looks are growing on me...

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#2446547 - 02/04/18 07:38 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: yella71]
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Originally Posted By yella71
If your buddy thinks E bodys cost a lot just wait till he starts to fix up the bargin vett he thinks he found then bought. as said the frames rot the suspension parts rot the brakes will be totally shot unless someone shot their nut on all new brakes then realized the frame of the car was rotted in two...don't ask me how I know (no it was not me). then you need to pull the body off the frame and eather rebuild yours or get one that has been re built and hope it was done on a good jig and is strait. the rear suspention has about a million parts... all will be worn out or NG...If you don't know how to repair this stuff its a steep learning curve or you need to find some one who does. Not telling you not to do it but don't ever think its cheeper than an E body. its not


Oh man, i can see that. Been looking at a LOT ov old vettes online for him lately, and i see some scary stuff. Good thing is, he's like me, and willing to modify/improvise a lot ov stuff, and it doesn't need to be pretty. Found myself on Ebay last night, and i about had a stroke when i saw what the rarer parts are going for. I thought 426 hemi stuff was expensive!!! Christ... its just not in the same solar system as sane. God help anyone who actually wants to restore a money vette.

I think like a money E-body, if you dont need bone stock and car show perfect there has to be deals out there on solid cars and cheaper ways to have fun with them.

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#2446548 - 02/04/18 07:42 PM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Streetwize]
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Originally Posted By Streetwize
The Guy that lives behind me has an Early 70's (egg crate gills) sitting under a car port for about 12 years now.....very sad.

Love the 63-67 and the 68-69, as far as handling I guess they were okay, but not really even that good for their day, compared to say an old BMW 2002 the vette was not even in the same leauge back then; It's sad to think today a typical new Accord or Camry could outlap a stock one on a road course. The IRS transverse leaf set up can be modernized with Fiberglass leaf springs and with modern rubber and light wheels would probably help things out a bunch. The frame (assuming you found a good one) is kinda flexy at the limit but I'm sure there are 50+ years of suspension tuning tricks to discover if you ask the right people.

As for a motor, I think I'd go old school SB 327 (3.25 stroke) with 6" rods in a Dart 4.125 bore Block (for 347 inches) but with some brodix heads, EFI and a small Bullet Street solid roller like the Ultradyne .4033 grind for a 7200+ redline, then couple that to a close ratio Tremec with an aluminum flywheel and 3.73-ish gears....then go have a blast. drive


I'd imagine tires played a massive part in the poor performance figures back then. Corvettes seemed to be born with worse tires than most. The C2's were awful. I wonder how hard it'd be to retrofit say, C4 stuff into an old one. I've seen a couple C2 frames/cars now with "C4 suspension and brakes", and i wonder whats involved...

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#2446686 - 02/05/18 12:12 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: second 70]
Dave Hall Offline
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Registered: 01/21/08
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I don't know anything about the faded yellow color other than it wasn't the most desirable. Don't know rare it is??? Sunfire was a Chrysler name for that pastel, faded yellow wasn't it? Never even heard of Goldwood. I think the big three had colors that were somewhat close in shade and different in name. Your current C2 is stellar BTW... up

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#2446783 - 02/05/18 09:49 AM Re: Who knows old Corvettes? [Re: Dave Hall]
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I'd just buy used a Cobra replica instead. Factory Five or whatever else is out there.

A first gen Mustang coupe or Falcon would be another option as they make a ton of handling upgrades for those and people actually still road race them. 408 Windsor with 351 Cleveland heads and a 5 speed manual is how to do it.

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