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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439477
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Was told It will be shipped in a couple weeks after best machine does lifter bushings. Not sure if this will work but here is a try...


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439509
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When is the anniversary date of your deposit??


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RUNCHARGER] #2439524
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Originally Posted By RUNCHARGER
Not to stay off track but in my comment I said nothing about going non-Mopar/Fiat. I love my Viper and if I wanted to go fast I would do it with a Viper and turbos or blower, Failing that a modern Mopar/Fiat V8 and boost.
Back to the Soap Opera.


I can see the Viper, son has a 1999 Viper and has a 2004 SRT4 W/ Mods and a first Gen Neon SRT4 swap with a ton of D.Cox parts that he races in Time Attack. He says to me all the time that Kids his age can not afford to get into older Mopars because of the costs. I still like that Orange Challenger with the Hemi you built Sheldon.

It seems that there were problems with parts to assemble the KB blocks. I was told that these parts just started being done by another manufacturer. That should speed up the time frame that one can receive a block. Has anyone put their money down on a block in the last month. I can see you would not want to take a change with your money reading this thread but that would give a real time frame if someone has on how long it will take in the near future.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439527
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Feel the love up in here...lol. I think some just don't really get it when it comes to fast bracket racing and that's ok and not surprised.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: fast68plymouth] #2439659
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
When is the anniversary date of your deposit??


Paid in full, not deposit and yes a very long time. 2015. There is a couple longer than me.

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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: WedgeFED] #2439666
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
When is the anniversary date of your deposit??


Paid in full, not deposit and yes a very long time. 2015. There is a couple longer than me.


Nov. 2014 for the win! Boom! Well maybe a win I'm not sure if anyone is longer than that or not.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: d7cook] #2439670
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October 2014 for me.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439687
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2014 and 2015? YOu have more patience than me! I'd have sued them and called the sheriff, the fbi, and anyone else who would listen by now.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439760
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Like I said....... They've been waiting........ waiting...... and waiting some more.

And they still are.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439766
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It's been 9 months since this thread was started...and 7 months since Ray has posted in this thread....


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439778
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2439782
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
It's been 9 months since this thread was started...and 7 months since Ray has posted in this thread....

Because of the 3 Gents that took on this project I have faith that it will happen.WHEN.............that's the mystery! work


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2439876
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Copchaser, D7Cook,WedgeFED, who did you order the blocks from. Was it Keith Black or was it this new group of owners or investors.


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They all would have been through KB. New ownership is a more recent developemnt


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: hemicar1971] #2440004
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Originally Posted By hemicar1971
Copchaser, D7Cook,WedgeFED, who did you order the blocks from. Was it Keith Black or was it this new group of owners or investors.


The new group has only been around a year or so. All the back orders are from KB as far as I know. I doubt there's been been many or any orders since the new people took over. Considering the history I'd think anyone wanting a block is going to wait until they are consistently delivering product. Actually I'm not sure they're accepting orders.

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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: d7cook] #2440012
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I am starting to think my old 90's Keith Black Top Fuel block may just need to get repaired so I can re-use it some day since it seems no good signs of any new blocks coming out soon. I feel for all of you that have put out such a huge deposit or paid in full for a block many years ago that you still do not have. Yikes....


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2440119
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I kept hearing the old orders were being taken care of but looks like that is not true. I talked to one person that just ordered from the new owners and that is why I asked about who you guys bought your blocks from. Will see when the block comes in or even if it does. I know the manufacturing of some of the block parts had slowed everything down to a stop. I hear most of the problems come from the old way KB does business and that must be dealt with and has taken much longer than expected because of the distance of keeping a eye on the KB Business and running your existing Business. I can see if it does not work with some of the people in the process of getting these block built then those people need to be eliminated before this thing falls completely apart. It will take time to get new people involve in the manufacturing of parts for the blocks. I would say this will take time and has taken quite a long time looking at what everyone has said.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: hemicar1971] #2440139
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Originally Posted By hemicar1971
I kept hearing the old orders were being taken care of but looks like that is not true. I talked to one person that just ordered from the new owners and that is why I asked about who you guys bought your blocks from. Will see when the block comes in or even if it does. I know the manufacturing of some of the block parts had slowed everything down to a stop. I hear most of the problems come from the old way KB does business and that must be dealt with and has taken much longer than expected because of the distance of keeping a eye on the KB Business and running your existing Business. I can see if it does not work with some of the people in the process of getting these block built then those people need to be eliminated before this thing falls completely apart. It will take time to get new people involve in the manufacturing of parts for the blocks. I would say this will take time and has taken quite a long time looking at what everyone has said.


My understanding is most if not all the old orders have blocks. When the new owners took over all the blocks were in various stages of completion with sleeves and main caps being the two biggest problems. The new owners ordered all the required sleeves and that part got done but getting main caps machined and installed became an obstacle. Particularly the #5 main cap. This is why all the blocks were put on a truck and sent to Michigan to get this last step done.


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My understanding is most if not all the old orders have blocks. When the new owners took over all the blocks were in various stages of completion with sleeves and main caps being the two biggest problems. The new owners ordered all the required sleeves and that part got done but getting main caps machined and installed became an obstacle. Particularly the #5 main cap. This is why all the blocks were put on a truck and sent to Michigan to get this last step done.



In my 33 years of Millwrighting at Allegheny Ludlum steel I watched this happen with my own eyes. You wouldn't believe how big our machine shop was and it was maned 24 hours a day. There wasn't a thing that we needed that those guys couldn't punch out well made and quickly done.
Behind the machine shop we had in house motor winders so if a motor burned out or replaced these guys could make it better than new. Not any more. No in house winders and our machine shop is about 1/8 th the size. Now they are at the mercy of others buying CRAP and waiting forever. Trade skills in the USA would take forever to build back up as Apprentice's learning on the job went out the window too.


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
My understanding is most if not all the old orders have blocks. When the new owners took over all the blocks were in various stages of completion with sleeves and main caps being the two biggest problems. The new owners ordered all the required sleeves and that part got done but getting main caps machined and installed became an obstacle. Particularly the #5 main cap. This is why all the blocks were put on a truck and sent to Michigan to get this last step done.



In my 33 years of Millwrighting at Allegheny Ludlum steel I watched this happen with my own eyes. You wouldn't believe how big our machine shop was and it was maned 24 hours a day. There wasn't a thing that we needed that those guys couldn't punch out well made and quickly done.
Behind the machine shop we had in house motor winders so if a motor burned out or replaced these guys could make it better than new. Not any more. No in house winders and our machine shop is about 1/8 th the size. Now they are at the mercy of others buying CRAP and waiting forever. Trade skills in the USA would take forever to build back up as Apprentice's learning on the job went out the window too.




Sad but true.


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