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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: cdwmotorsports] #2433261
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Anything painted black will conceal it better to the naked eye except of course, if you are talking auto body panel work using a gloss black. Flat or satin black tends to be more stealthy.
The look a sheen of aluminum draws the eye to it and basically opens up the flood gates of curiosity and questions.
Black draws heat to itself so theoretically it should keep the radiator a tiny cooler because it will extract the heat from within to the outside where the black is at. Old Nascar trick supposedly utilizing pigment thermo physics.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2433297
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
True that. Would not be surprised if he added ballast to certain sections of the rear. I believe those pups already have aluminum hoods. I suspect most of the weight is in the doors, interior and dash bulkhead section.
It would be a challenge to narrow down the weight of a street Challenger.


A friend has a new style Challenger drag car. Full dash, door panels, interior trim, power windows, 6.1 N/A, 904, 8 3/4, all stock body. Less than 3100 w/o driver. Looks bone stock except for the seats.
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Now that there is fairly light and at fighting weight for a new Challenger. there's got to be more to this menu that he explored.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2434879
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: ric3xrt] #2434981
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I would have thought that a Ram with its ultra long wheelbase might have benefited from its own weight.
I've been shocked by some stout Diesel giants out there.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2435090
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Anything painted black will conceal it better to the naked eye except of course, if you are talking auto body panel work using a gloss black. Flat or satin black tends to be more stealthy.
The look a sheen of aluminum draws the eye to it and basically opens up the flood gates of curiosity and questions.
Black draws heat to itself so theoretically it should keep the radiator a tiny cooler because it will extract the heat from within to the outside where the black is at. Old Nascar trick supposedly utilizing pigment thermo physics.


The part about "drawing the eye" is so true. One weekend I put on a Moroso underdrive pulley and left it aluminum thinking no one would notice. THE FIRST GUY that walked by at our cruise in commented on the pulley! It came off and got draped in black the next day!


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: GY3] #2436469
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Many times over, lots of people and I mean lots of people including (|)opar guys, have scolded me for not installing lightweight aluminum wheels on my car. LOL

"Black is where it's at if you want to be slippery like an alley cat".

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2437046
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Well I need to find some where to lose a little weight cause I'm swapping my stock brake lines for stainless as soon as the weather breaks here. Have I mentioned I'm over winter?


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: cdwmotorsports] #2437304
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Winter?
Winter is a good time to do all the weight loss stuff. Just look at all the TV commercials telling people to join the various miracle weight loss plans in order to look the part in Spring. LOL.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2437401
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Many times over, lots of people and I mean lots of people including (|)opar guys, have scolded me for not installing lightweight aluminum wheels on my car. LOL

"Black is where it's at if you want to be slippery like an alley cat".


me thought you HAD "fake-o" steel wheels already [at least on the front] for quite a while now ? shruggy
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There's nothing fake about steel, but yes, the fronts are of the light alloy kind and the first pair of smoothie stealth types from Centerline right after they announced their availability. I can't remember the official name of them. I got 'em at SEMA years back and painted them gloss black as soon as I landed at JFK. LOL. Were lighter than the steelies by about 10 Lbs each IIRC.
The rears are regular Centerline Auto Drags with a custom punched aluminum hubcap to hide the rivets. Painted black and they were ready to fool the masses.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2437902
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i forgot about your rear wheel "hubcaps" ! i thought i remembered the front wheels being "fake-o" steel, however. when you get to re-doing the wiring, any idea if you will be removing any unnecessary circuits, or just tiding up ? 2-3 pounds there, or does it just look worse that it really is ? what about an aluminum column tube, or did you already do that ?
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Originally Posted By moparx
when you get to re-doing the wiring, any idea if you will be removing any unnecessary circuits, or just tiding up ? 2-3 pounds there, or does it just look worse that it really is ?


I've been on him for a while about the wiring in that thing!

Probably won't quite add up to 2-3 lbs, there's not much there to begin with. Depends how far he wants to go though.

Once I get my own car out of storage, I have to finish the wiring in it. I removed a bunch of unnecessary circuitry just leaving the bare minimum. Of course I did it the hard way trying to adapt the factory harness to a generic fuse panel, not the easiest method.


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Here's my front STEEL wheels without their respective hub caps. These were the very first Centerline Stealth (or what ever they are called) wheels off the line and were being shown at SEMA at their booth. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that a company had semi built a line of wheels that would look close to a stock wheel.
They at the time were surprised themselves that someone was going google eyed over a plain innocent looking wheel.
They saved a total of 12 Lbs over the skinny steelies I had for years. Could save much more over a set of standard 6" or 7" steel wheels for sure. Not much in some circles literally, but never the less, less pounds up front.

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Wow, I've posted flicks of my aluminum column so far back on this thread, the thread may have to start all over in order for dudes to keep up. LOL.

Here's the column sitting up next to the stock puppy. It saved about 3 Lbs IIRC. Everything stock including adding a lightweight Bondo Bob's steering shaft fit into it.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2437996
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Here's a detail from the head mast.
Some cats in a machine shop located in the Brooklyn Navy Yard where I was building the car in secret turned this on their lathe one afternoon while on their lunch break. LOL.
I did the final shaping of holes, filing and drilling by hand.

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Talking about Spaghetti wires under the dash.... I've been cooking enough of it, but not dealing with it under the dash lately.
Between my own day job and keeping on Palm Readers a$$ to finish the doors, (He's a mad scientist when it comes to body work) I have not had a chance to get under there and clean house. Gee, I haven't had a chance to even throw the thing on my set of scales. LOL.
Yes, I will clear out all unnecessary wiring Spaghetti and circuits, screws, connectors, you name it. But I'll have to cut out a whole day to do it neatly as RMCHGR has done with his.

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Fronts as they looked on the car in Detroit a few years back.

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