Just curious if there is a difference between the 440+6 emblems on the bubble versus one on the hood. I've seen emblems for sale with two pins or three pins. The only part number I've seen is P2998798 for both styles.

shaker = 3 pin
steel hood = 2 pin

Okay thanks

is there a source for the three pin emblem? is there a physical difference between the two pin and three pin emblem other than the number of pins?

I don’t think there is any difference other than the number/type of pins on cuda shaker emblems. The Challenger shaker emblems for 440-6 and hemi were different than what was on the bulge hood.

Not sure if cuda 440-6 shaker emblems are repro’d. Mitchelll motors has some “NOS” ones listed on eBay but I think Frank Mitchell had a bunch of emblems repro’d years ago and sold as NOS. Either way they may be the only game In town. I am sure there is a different part number for the shaker emblems.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1971-Plymo...Par/7994022972?

Be aware that pins on the shaker emblems are longer and thicker than normal pins.

The two pin Cuda 440-6 Emblem I have has a part number on the back of the emblem 2998761. The Emblem came in a Mopar Performance Package with a date of 11/25/03 and a Mopar Performance Part Number P3623278. Who knows if Chrysler cast these from an original source or had an aftermarket source do them for their MP Catalogue.

Looking at the link that Floyd put in his post I see the Outside Pin location is the same on the two pin Cuda 440-6 emblems I have as the ones in the E Bay Ad that has three pins. So I go and compare the two pin location Cuda 440-6 I have that is the same as the three pin location on the outside pins in the E Bay Ad with a 426Hemi Shaker Challenger emblem and the outside pins are in the same location. I also compared the Cuda 440-6 two pin Emblem outside location with a Cuda 383 Shaker three pin Emblem and the outside locations are the same. I now find new 340 four barrel Challenger Sport Hood emblems and these emblems are a little wider than all the Shaker Emblems and the two pin Cuda 440-6 Emblems and these 340 four barrel sport hood emblems do not fit in the holes on a Shaker Bubble. I have heard a few stories about the Cuda 440-6 emblems but could not find out if this was true or not being tapered with. Others on this board that are more familiar with Shaker and Sport Hood emblems need to chime in. All other Sport Hood emblems seem to be a little bit wider than shaker Emblems measuring the outside pin length. So why do my Cuda 440-6 Emblems with two pins fit a Shaker Bubble when the pins are made for a sport hood pin length. Did someone back door the parts out of the supplier or did someone make the Emblems and did not put a third pin on them or the correct size pin on them.

I believe the 2 pin emblem has a plastic sleeve on the pins, that kinda presses into the steel sport hood. The 3 pin shaker emblem gets speed nuts on the inside preventing the emblem from shaking loose on the bubble from motor vibration.

There also is a difference between the pins sizes with the Sport Hood Emblems being shorter and skinnier. The Shaker Hood Emblems would likely not fit into the hole of a Sport Hood and are much longer and fatter. You need to be able to press the Emblems in on a Sport Hood on the line. I believe the Shaker Bubble would have the emblems already installed on the Bubble from Fram.

Dave is correct from what I have seen with NOS 440-6 nameplates.
The original issue 2 pin ones came with the plastic sleeve for the steel hood.
Regarding the two styles other than the pin length/size and number of pins, the original 440-6 shaker nameplates carried the cast number 3462273
and the two pin steel hood ones are 2998761.
As for what is out there on the market today, I have not seen them in person to see cast numbers.
The brushed finish on the CUDA part is an indication of original run verses the chrome finish on some out there today.
And yes, the various nameplates were installed on the scoops before leaving Fram.

Looking at both emblems that mccannix posted you can tell the bottom emblem would be a later built emblem and would likely have a more chrome finish on it. The casting number of 2998761 is the same as the ones I have and likely have the same outside pin location that fit a shaker hood and not a sport hood and might have the shorter, thinner pins also that should be for a sport hood but should have the shaker size pins.

I can tell you for a fact in 1980 the 440-6 cuda emblems from chrysler were in fact the 2 pin when you ordered them. We had a cuda come in the bodyshop that had its hood and shaker stolen and that is all we could get. I also ordered every engine size that you could get, for me in case I fell into a car and only got 340,383,and hemi 3 pin, the 440 440-6 both came 2 pin. I have been told thru the years that 3 pin 440 440-6 were never availiable thru chrysler, and any out there are repo, backdoored who knows if thats true. The car owner complained about the emblems we used... not the 3 pin part he said the originals were tapered??? I have heard that, heard the brushed vs chrome, but really would like to know whats right also. Is it possible there were several different vendors for that with so few made?

I might add the 3 pin and 2 pin outer location was the same at that time.

Year one listed 440-6 shaker emblems, reproduction vc761 24 bucks each, they still have them. Original chrysler 440-6 hood emblems were in the 1998 catalog too fd41c. Call and ask if they are 3pin or not, 40 bucks each.

I bought a 440-6 shaker car back in Sept '02 from a childhood neighbor that bought it from the original owner in Nov '85 ( I never saw the car until Sept '02). Car had 2 repaints by original owner and he removed the bubble emblems and filled the holes! This is an original FE5 car and out of curiosity i knew it could or should be a FE5 bubble? So i popped the filler out of the holes and wow, FE5 in the holes.
Fast forward a month or so and i had tracked down the original owner, not hard as he was the only registered owner and lived in my state, not to far from where i grew up!

I bought 2 sets of 440-6, 3 pin emblems from Frank Mitchell back in 2002 after buying the car.

I ended up meeting the original owner at a mopar show and asked about the original bubble emblems, He had them but refused to sell them to me, so i asked if he could bring them with him to compare to the sets i bought from Frank M. because there was a slight defect in the emblems i got from Frank and i knew he may have repopped them. Well ended up the defect was the same on the originals! The only thing i dont's remember is the finish? I just looked at mine and they are chrome, not brushed? I have a set of NOS HEMI bubble emblems and they are brushed finish.

The original owner also has dealer paper work and refused to give OR sell it to me??? Anyways he did agree to give me copies along with a copy of a pic of the car the day he brought it home......PROOF.....yup FE5 shaker bubble!!!!! I was very happy. Who knows if he's still alive, we stayed in contact for a short time and that was it.

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I can tell you for a fact in 1980 the 440-6 cuda emblems from chrysler were in fact the 2 pin when you ordered them. We had a cuda come in the bodyshop that had its hood and shaker stolen and that is all we could get. I also ordered every engine size that you could get, for me in case I fell into a car and only got 340,383,and hemi 3 pin, the 440 440-6 both came 2 pin. I have been told thru the years that 3 pin 440 440-6 were never availiable thru chrysler, and any out there are repo, backdoored who knows if thats true. The car owner complained about the emblems we used... not the 3 pin part he said the originals were tapered??? I have heard that, heard the brushed vs chrome, but really would like to know whats right also. Is it possible there were several different vendors for that with so few made? [/quote]

My guess is there were WAY more 2 pin emblems produced due to the steel hood was the standard for 440-6 cars. Shaker was optional. Therefore the 2 pin are more abundant today in NOS??

It would not suprise me if franks were correct, he was who chrysler had you contact in 1979 when a part was ns1 on the computer printout when you typed in part numbers, dont know prior to that. We got a lot of stuff from frank and I doubt he was repoping in 1979. nos black aar grille for 55 bucks shipped. You might be lucky not to have contact with original owner, guy we fixed the cuda for and painted the hood still reminds me of how I screwed him on the emblems.

Need to add this, told the guy bring the hood and shaker back and I will give your $1000 back. Everything I sell lifetime warranty if you dont abuse it.

I believe early 1970 FE5 Cudas received the Red bubbles. Not sure how long Chrysler put them on Cudas. If there were any Red Bubble left over after this time Chrysler stopped putting the Red bubbles on Cudas, Fram would of repainted over the red with argent or black paint. All the Shaker Emblems that I have Cuda383, 426Hemi, etc all had the brushed finish on the numbers except the one that has a . My Dodge Shaker Emblems 440 and 426 emblems all have fat end to the emblem making a left and right for each scoop with fat ends on either the letters or numbers. The two pin Shaker fit emblems I own in the MP packaging have Chrome Numbers and I would imagine it was done because it was easier to do than having them brushed.

Frank had a connection in Floyds' state, MD where the majority of the nameplates were manufactured for Chrysler.
As for the 440-6 shaker nameplates having a slight curvature in my opinion that is a myth.
They are going to get that when you tighten them with speednuts to meet the slight curvature of the scoop in that area.
Challenger shaker nameplates are a different story, they do have a taper because of the size, thickness and length.