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Or better asked question:
I am aware that region 15 is the Detroit area.
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81100 is "Company Car Control 6501 Lynch Rd. Detroit MI"
But more specifically what cars were sent to 81100 and why?
My cars 1966 IBM card list these numbers.
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Barry Washington?

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per Darrell Davis:
region 15 = company accounts/home office
region 16 = company accounts/field locations

region 42 = DETROIT (dealer franchise)

there is not a specific "dealer" associated with 81100

it's a company car arraigned/managed/based out of the Lynch Rd. assembly plant
by comparison:
15 81101 would be associated with a company car arraigned/managed/based out of Chrysler Corp. Central Operations 341 Massachusetts Ave. Highland Park, MI

what kind of car is it? can you share a copy of the IBM card?

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1966 Imperial Crown

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is this for "the black beauty"?
have you figured out the timing from build in Detroit to "donated?" to Hollywood?

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Yep! Car #2 of 2
A certain "guru" told me it was executive use more than likely by an upper level management type then was sent to a dealership in Hollywood then sent to be modified at Dean Jeffries shop.
By 1-23-67 it was at Max Barish Inc. of Los Angeles and sold to 20th Century Fox Studios. It was built October 5, 1965 But no real answer what 81100 was and what was the car doing there.

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timeline work

October 5, 1965 (Tuesday 10/5/65) scheduled or built? the IBM usually shows scheduled & shipped ??

spring '66 (April) turned in by whomever used it as a company car (typically used for ~6 months) unless it had another purpose for Chrysler

September 9, 1966 (Friday 9/9/66) "Green Hornet" debuts on TV

January 23, 1967 (Monday 1/23/67) sold used by Max Barish Chrysler-Plymouth Los Angeles, CA

March 24, 1967 (Friday 3/24/67) "Green Hornet" season #1 final episode airs on TV

was #2 transformed into a Green Hornet "black beauty" for a season #2 that never happened?

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I looked on your site & saw the sales document showing the CA license plate "X 62 994" was already assigned to the car when sold to 20th Century Fox. Plates stay with the car once registered in CA, IMO this plate was for an owner between Chrysler & 20th Century Fox - likely some type of commercial limousine service.

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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
timeline work

October 5, 1965 (Tuesday 10/5/65) scheduled or built? the IBM usually shows scheduled & shipped ??

spring '66 (April) turned in by whomever used it as a company car (typically used for ~6 months) unless it had another purpose for Chrysler

September 9, 1966 (Friday 9/9/66) "Green Hornet" debuts on TV

January 23, 1967 (Monday 1/23/67) at Max Barish Chrysler-Plymouth Los Angeles, CA

March 24, 1967 (Friday 3/24/67) "Green Hornet" season #1 final episode airs on TV

was #2 transformed into a Green Hornet "black beauty" for a season #2 that never happened?


Correct scheduled and shipped is what is on the IBM card and that was October 5, 1965
#1 car was delivered to Dean Jeffries on or about April 10-11 1966.
Modifications completed by Jeffries of the #1 car on May 10-11, 1966
First photographed #1 car on set May 18, 1966
#2 car took longer to complete. Jeffries recalls "they were in the shop about the same time."
First photographic outing of #2 was at the 44th Southern California International Auto Show at the Pan Pacific Auditorium October 28, 1966 as far as I can tell. Car wranglers on set indicate #2 was available on set for test shots and second unit filming. To date we have only eyewitness testimony to confirm this.
First application for a hard plate (X62994) was from 1-23-67 listed as purchasing from Max Barish. If this paperwork is the original paperwork or the first application then it might be for the second year of its life with the first application being 1-23-1966 (?) Hard to say but when the series was cancelled it was common to make an accounting of all the property associated with t he said series and they may not have registered it before that time because cars usually just stayed on set and really did not need tags. But the transport tag would have allowed to be moved off set legally.

Season #2 was planned and scripts collected however the show was canceled on January 3, 1967 so it would be pointless to buy and modify a car after the series had already been cancelled. Hence the paperwork I have, (the application for hard plate) must be one in a series of documents of the cars history. Two modified cars were contracted for the series and two were delivered according to Jeffries "#2 shortly after #1 was delivered."

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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
I looked on your site & saw the sales document showing the CA license plate "X 62 994" was already assigned to the car when sold to 20th Century Fox. Plates stay with the car once registered in CA, IMO this plate was for an owner between Chrysler & 20th Century Fox - likely some type of commercial limousine service.

Too bad records do not exist anymore to trace the original owner of X 62 994 or the previous owner or company might be found of the car prior to its modification.
I am told California only keeps DMV paperwork for 10 years.

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have you seen the IBM on #1?

what's the SPD #2?
what's the shipped date #2?

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did FOX or GREENWAY obtain the cars or were they provided by Chrysler?

is Chrysler Corp. mentioned in the TV show credits?

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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
have you seen the IBM on #1?

No I have seen the VIN and data tag. Indicates date of 1/12/1966

Originally Posted By 6bblgt
what's the SPD #2?
what's the shipped date #2?

The only date off of the IBM card of #2 that I was able to discern was the one I gave you.
SPD #2 = October 5, 1965 (Sandstone Metallic)
SPD #1 = January 12, 1966 (Silver Metallic)


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IMPERIAL had their own names for paint codes:

A = "silver mist metallic"
4 = "moss gold metallic"

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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
did FOX or GREENWAY obtain the cars or were they provided by Chrysler?

is Chrysler Corp. mentioned in the TV show credits?


Greenway obtained the cars but registered to FOX.
Chrysler corp was not listed in the show credits. However the other characters had Chrysler vehicles. A red 66 Dart and a blue 1966 Chrysler Newport.

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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
IMPERIAL had their own names for paint codes:

A = "silver mist metallic"
4 = "moss gold metallic"

Your right. #1 was listed as having (Z-8) Special Paint treatment on the fender tag.

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column 1-3 is the 3-digit SPD
column 77-80 is the 4-digit shipped date

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Does anyone know the story of this one. I took this picture last month at a classic car dealer in Venice Florida. I'm assuming that it was a recently built one?

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Yes built in the north east (New York) A few years old, not very screen accurate.

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