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1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms #2427731
01/02/18 02:31 PM
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I am currently using a 1969 Hurst factory console shifter on my 68 Charger, like the one that would have come on a 69 Charger for example.

Years ago I picked up a 70 console pistol grip handle that I now want to install but I know there are differences in the actual mechanism itself, or actually the lever part so one doesn't smash the dashboard on the 2/3 shift.

I found the correct mechanism but not too excited about dropping 250 on another one, does anyone know if the 69 one can just be modified with a longer lever?

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Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: Charger446] #2427825
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I believe all of the " 3 fingers" that stick down out of the hurst box are longer than the 69 and down boxes. This shortens the throw of all the gears not just the 2-3.

Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: Charger446] #2427826
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I know the levers on the 70 shifter are longer and the rods are different as well. I think the levers on the tranny are the same Should work if you just get rods.

Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: Charger446] #2427833
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Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: Cuda340] #2427841
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Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: Charger446] #2427951
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A side-by-side comparison, '68-'69 on left, '70 on the right.

Shifters 68and70.jpg

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Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: John_Kunkel] #2427994
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Although the above Hurst Competition Plus 68-69 mechanism will fit the application, this is a correct assembly line 68-69 mechanism which takes the slide in handle and has the correct size finger openings for linkage without using bushings.
Just stating, in case you stumble on to one exact as above and are not sure of application.

zz69mech.JPG
Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: mccannix] #2428090
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Appreciate the photos guys, very helpful.

Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: Charger446] #2428202
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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I was going to say factory didnt use Comp Plus after 65.My 65 came withj one.They went from Inland in 66 to just Comp boxes.I have a 71 pistol grip top for my 65 box I change when I pull the OE one.I had to drill it as it was the slip fit type.Supposedly you can drill the Comp box for the stop bolts like the Plus has.Sold the 71 box after I pulled the pistol handle.Rocky

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Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: John_Kunkel] #2428234
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Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
A side-by-side comparison, '68-'69 on left, '70 on the right.


The shifter on the left in your photo has the two stop bolts. Factory Hurst shifters used in 1968 and later did not have them, but they could have been added...

Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: rarefish] #2428348
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Jeez guys, the pic was for a comparison of lever lengths. rolleyes


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Re: 1969 vs 1970 B Body 4 speed shifter mechanisms [Re: John_Kunkel] #2428362
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No problem here John...I always value your input and knowledge.
I was just trying to help the OP steer clear of dropping $250.00 which he had a chance to, on a Comp Plus mech that a seller may be trying to claim was factory assembly line correct.







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