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#2423113 - 12/24/17 12:12 PM WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd
viperakron Offline
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Older B Bodies not bringing a lot of money. Found a nice looking mostly orig car, 4 spd. Asking $70K which is way too much. I barely see them out of $40s on Mecum. What's the market?

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#2423116 - 12/24/17 12:28 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Colors?
Options (console, clock, etc.)?
Original carbs, dizzy, etc?

Details will help, but yes- 40-55k is general ballpark.

Is the car in question yellow ext/black int?
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#2423129 - 12/24/17 01:00 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Details matter a lot on early Hemi B-body cars. Original color and options, condition, documentation, original drive train, etc. can all factor in heavily.

66 Dodge Hemis are generally the least valuable, all things being equal Chargers are at the bottom, Coronets one notch higher. As far as options, a black, red, or silver 4 speed car will usually bring the most. 4 speed will almost always bring a premium, column shift auto being the lowest demand.

The restoration details on these cars can really make a big impact as well, most trim is either chromed pot metal or anodized aluminum, both can cost crazy money to restore or find NOS replacements. Sheet metal (especially quarters) and NOS parts are very hard to find for them along with almost nothing being reproduced, accordingly some restorations will show short cuts in these areas, take nothing for granted when buying one!

I agree, average prices are in the 45-55K range, top shelf examples can be a lot higher, but these are typically exceptions with ALL or the right boxes checked. .02

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#2423156 - 12/24/17 01:49 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Thanks. Car is light blue orig paint, white top and interior, Coronet 500.

Solid, floors and sheetmetal, but needs a resto.

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#2423160 - 12/24/17 02:00 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Sounds like a low to mid 30's price range car if it needs a resto. Any pics?

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#2423222 - 12/24/17 04:19 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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I would not buy it if it needs a resto. If you don't believe me, try to locate some rustfree quarters and a pit free trunk applique for a start. $70k would be a top notch restored car with correct parts IMHO. I really like the cars but you have to be realistic. Lately I have been pondering buying a restored first gen Hemi Charger (probably because no one else seems to appreciate them and I'm a bit of a car rebel).
One thing that really seems to be a big deal with 66-67 guys is that it has to have a 4 speed complete with that terrible Inland shifter.
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#2423338 - 12/24/17 08:08 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: RUNCHARGER]
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Sounds cool.

I agree on the Inland shifter. On price I always figured I'd pay 25-35k for a 4-speed 66-67 Coronet unrestored driver type of car if I found the right one. Say a complete #3-4 car from this end of the country (i.e. no major rot).

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#2423353 - 12/24/17 08:58 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Everyone that dislikes their inland shifter please send them to me, I'll take them off your hands. They are great working shifters.

Maybe work on your car to find what is wrong if the trans won't shift correctly.
I know many folks that have excellent working inland shifters.

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#2423390 - 12/24/17 10:27 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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I still have scars on my knuckles from slamming into the ash tray power shifting an inland shifter.
I'm sure they can work fine but they weren't called the "infamous guess a gear noodle shifter" for the heck of it.

Needing a resto means different things to different people.
Pics would help a lot.
I'm a bit shocked people think/find the 66/67 charger is less valuable than the other b bodies of the same years
I'd prefer the charger. It's the body style that gave me the aforementioned scars. wink
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#2423398 - 12/24/17 10:46 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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People make too big an issue of the Inland shifters, you get used to them but granted, they do feel sloppy. That said the fix is simple. Just order an adapter from Brewers and bolt the inland shifter handle to a new Hurst mechanism and you are good to go. Original looks, positive shifts.

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#2423399 - 12/24/17 10:49 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: NTOLERANCE]
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Originally Posted By NTOLERANCE
I still have scars on my knuckles from slamming into the ash tray power shifting an inland shifter.
I'm sure they can work fine but they weren't called the "infamous guess a gear noodle shifter" for the heck of it.

Needing a resto means different things to different people.
Pics would help a lot.
I'm a bit shocked people think/find the 66/67 charger is less valuable than the other b bodies of the same years
I'd prefer the charger. It's the body style that gave me the aforementioned scars. wink


After driving both the Coronet and the Charger nearly daily I prefer the Coronet. The Charger has too much road noise for a cruiser due to the rear wheel wells being open to the cabin. Essentially you hear the change in every road surface resonant in the car. Also, the rear cargo area is almost useless being hard to reach the latches from the front etc. Again for a casual driver for errands and such the Coronet is my choice.

That said both of by hot rods are '66 Chargers.
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#2423400 - 12/24/17 10:51 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: NANKET]
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Originally Posted By NANKET
Everyone that dislikes their inland shifter please send them to me, I'll take them off your hands. They are great working shifters.

Maybe work on your car to find what is wrong if the trans won't shift correctly.
I know many folks that have excellent working inland shifters.


lol we are going to have this discussion in person before the next calendar year is up. You say it can be power shifted and I'm not doubting you. How many times is the question! (all meant in fun Santa2 )

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#2423408 - 12/24/17 11:19 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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#2427822 - 01/02/18 01:41 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Better to find a clean '66 Coronet Convert and put a Hemi in it.

Love that combo. e.g.:

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#2430704 - 01/07/18 06:03 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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Well took a drive to see the car in person today. Car hasn't been touched since the 70s. Orig engine casting date 8-18-65, assembled 1-30, right carbs, console 4spd, decent paint. Unfortunately, owner had to drive it in winter first two years and both quarters are patched. Pot metal has some pits around vinyl top, bumpers have some pits. Has warranty card and built sheet. Is it worth $40 considering quarters?

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#2430735 - 01/07/18 06:41 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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IMO, nope, probably mid to high 20's.

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#2430740 - 01/07/18 06:49 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Quarters are pretty much unobtainable, car isn't worth in the $40s with that little fact. You would be into buying and wrecking a car with good quarters or really high (Hemi style) quality fabricating IMO. Then chase some other rare 66 parts. These days you really can't do a half baked Hemi car restoration, it's all in or leave it the way it is.
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#2430821 - 01/07/18 08:46 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: RUNCHARGER]
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This car looks very similar to the one you described. Except for the vinyl top color. The car looks very cool but definitely overpriced.

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#2430826 - 01/07/18 08:52 PM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: Adm413]
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can we see some more pics of that black ragtop? Awesome

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#2430932 - 01/08/18 04:12 AM Re: WIW 66 Coronet Hemi 4spd [Re: viperakron]
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how are the quarters pateched?
If it was just lower quarters/rockers and not the wheellip:
It might be not that bad.

If it runs&drives I would buy any original Hemi car for mid 20s.

So my guess is it is worth more even though it is not worth it to restore it financially

Carsten

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