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Re: Barn Find Bird
[Re: mopar4ya]
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Was it a local car?. Fill us in on all the details , why only 1000 miles ?. Was that car originally from Eau Claire.
Yeah it was from Eau Claire. I just brought it back from a barn in Florida. Car is very solid but as with most old cars someone started tried to save it by spraying primer all over it! LOL
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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Was it a local car?. Fill us in on all the details , why only 1000 miles ?. Was that car originally from Eau Claire.
Yeah it was from Eau Claire. I just brought it back from a barn in Florida. Car is very solid but as with most old cars someone started tried to save it by spraying primer all over it! LOL Give me a call mopar4ya I just sent you a PM.
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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12/31/17 10:54 PM
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That sure proves that they are indeed still out there! Great score!
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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So your from Pa. and found a car in Florida. I live in Florida and found my bird earlier this year in Pa. Mine is also a 440-6 with 4 speed original limelite. Can i ask where in Florida? Fort Myers Florida is where the car has been since the 80s. Was purchased in Eau Claire PA at J.M. Beatty dodge/Plymouth dealership
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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So your from Pa. and found a car in Florida. I live in Florida and found my bird earlier this year in Pa. Mine is also a 440-6 with 4 speed original limelite. Can i ask where in Florida? Fort Myers Florida is where the car has been since the 80s. Was purchased in Eau Claire PA at J.M. Beatty dodge/Plymouth dealership My car been stored in this body in Lancaster for 43 years.
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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Didn't ever know of a Bird in Franklin. There is one in Titusville. You are spot on. I just used Franklin as a reference, but I was thinking of Titusville. Nice call
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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Did your Bird come from Franklin, PA by any chance? came from Lancaster Pa.
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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01/02/18 07:26 PM
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I'll get some more pics as I clean this car out a little... yes, would love to see more pictures. What do you plan to do with it? i.e. full resto, etc...
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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It's present condition is not caused by putting miles on the car. it is caused by poor decisions and improper storage. Agreed, I bought a never registered, never titled 15,000 mile 1971 W200 Power Wagon, poor choices in it's storage left it nothing but a rusted parts truck, yet the 1971 Sweptline that came in the deal with it, having 70,000 miles on it was in real nice shape, so 2 trucks to make one
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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on the trunk picture, why is the underside of the trunk lid brown? Both of my Roadrunners were body color
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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It's present condition is not caused by putting miles on the car. it is caused by poor decisions and improper storage. I agree. Great find would have been worth a lot more if better care had been in the thought process. Years back I bought a triple black 64 Polara 500 convertible 383 4speed car with only 53k on it and parked in 1976. lt served as a parts car to mine as it was left outside and once the top failed the rest filled with water and leaves and went quickly. Same time the guy put a 1962 Polara 6 cylinder 4dr inside and that car remained very nice. He said his intensions were to get the 64 on the road quick as the oil pump went out. It sat there for over 25 plus years....
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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So your from Pa. and found a car in Florida. I live in Florida and found my bird earlier this year in Pa. Mine is also a 440-6 with 4 speed original limelite. Can i ask where in Florida? Fort Myers Florida is where the car has been since the 80s. Was purchased in Eau Claire PA at J.M. Beatty dodge/Plymouth dealership I live minutes from Ft Myers and never heard about this car.Where in Ft Myers and what's the story?
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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02/05/18 10:34 PM
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Story is better than Fiction: Guy bought two cars from a dealership in Eau Claire, PA. 1 Hemi Bird, 1 440 6bbl Bird. Wrecked the Hemi in 1978ish. Sold the Car to the man I bought it from in 1978ish. Car has not been PA inspected since 1976. Guy I bought the car from drove it very little when a young man. Parked it in PA weather for 5 years then sent it to uncle in Fort Myers FLA. At this time nose cone is getting pretty bad. Trunk floor has some issues. Uncle was not a restoration expert and decided to spray bomb the car to "preserve" it. Whole car is brown rustolem primered. Found 4 rusted spray cans in trunk. Okay, I was wrong! Imagine that! I just spoke to the original owner of the car. His father bought the car from a Plymouth dealer in Etna, PA called Krebs and King. The license plate frame on my car still has the name on it. He sold it to the man I bought it from due to health issues. I'm gonna do some research on KREBS and KING.
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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02/05/18 11:02 PM
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Did you sand it off? You know that rattle can paint/primer will usually come off with lacquer thinner, little to no sanding required I tried that,,,,However...The Primer KING sanded the car, then primered it. It would not come off without sanding. All the bare metal you see was done by his sanding. I wet sanded most of it but that rattle can rustoleum was tough stuff!!!
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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02/06/18 04:20 AM
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VERY COOL CAR!!! I used to drive my friends 440-6 4spd white BIRD....always loved the looks from onlookers or the people we passed!!
Anyways, my 2cents....i would have someone spray the car with non gloss clear to preserve it until the resto.....
I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?
Mike Mike, I traded my clone for this car.
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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Its had more than primer over the original paint, at least in the door jambs, the door striker and latches were not painted yellow from the factory. Yeah, the "restoration expert" found himself a can of yellow too. I do believe the extra primer and paint may have helped a little to prevent rust. Car needs a total reso anyhow so I might as well drive it a little rough and enjoy it.
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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02/06/18 03:23 PM
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Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?
Mike Mike, I traded my clone for this car. That's one for the Mopar enthusiast history books, trading a clone Superbird for the so called "real deal", good for you! Mike
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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02/07/18 03:02 AM
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Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?
Mike Mike, I traded my clone for this car. That's one for the Mopar enthusiast history books, trading a clone Superbird for the so called "real deal", good for you! Mike Yeah it was a perfect storm. Gentleman had some $ and health issues and loved my car. He knew he would never have the time or cash to restore his sooo.... The trade happened. The clone was no slouch. Here are some pics someone posted on the web while I was parked at summit in Ohio. http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/10/14...il&msg=fail
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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VERY COOL CAR!!! I used to drive my friends 440-6 4spd white BIRD....always loved the looks from onlookers or the people we passed!!
Anyways, my 2cents....i would have someone spray the car with non gloss clear to preserve it until the resto.....
Thanks. Already cleared! Done!
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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VERY COOL CAR!!! I used to drive my friends 440-6 4spd white BIRD....always loved the looks from onlookers or the people we passed!!
Anyways, my 2cents....i would have someone spray the car with non gloss clear to preserve it until the resto.....
Thanks. Already cleared! Done! Is it already cleared in the last 3 pics?
I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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OUCH. anyone know where I can find a replacement nose or a bottom piece for this one?????? Your only choice is Gene Gregory for a steel SB nosecone or possibly individual panels Mike
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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TJ out of the equation??? TJ, as in Tedrick Janek?, if so Ted's nose is fiberglass, not steel, I'll assume the OP wants a "factory" style steel replacement nose or panels to repair his existing nosecone...hence Gene Gregory
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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02/08/18 05:01 PM
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Who has the pot metal vinyl top trim for rear of window in something other then fiberglass? No potmetal repros, and originals are scarce, IIRC the current fiberglass ones on the market have no provision to bolt on, they are "bond-on", my repros are fiberglass, and have provisions to bolt them on as original with 2 studs and 2 screws per piece if your interested? Mike
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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TJ out of the equation??? I put a lot of Ted Janek parts on my clone. But this one I want to keep steel. If I could replace the bottom center it would be a nice nose. I think I got a hook on a bottom center section. Thanks folks.... TJ, as in Tedrick Janek?, if so Ted's nose is fiberglass, not steel, I'll assume the OP wants a "factory" style steel replacement nose or panels to repair his existing nosecone...hence Gene Gregory
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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Story is better than Fiction: Guy bought two cars from a dealership in Eau Claire, PA. 1 Hemi Bird, 1 440 6bbl Bird. Wrecked the Hemi in 1978ish. Sold the Car to the man I bought it from in 1978ish. Car has not been PA inspected since 1976. Guy I bought the car from drove it very little when a young man. Parked it in PA weather for 5 years then sent it to uncle in Fort Myers FLA. At this time nose cone is getting pretty bad. Trunk floor has some issues. Uncle was not a restoration expert and decided to spray bomb the car to "preserve" it. Whole car is brown rustolem primered. Found 4 rusted spray cans in trunk. Okay, I was wrong! Imagine that! I just spoke to the original owner of the car. His father bought the car from a Plymouth dealer in Etna, PA called Krebs and King. The license plate frame on my car still has the name on it. He sold it to the man I bought it from due to health issues. I'm gonna do some research on KREBS and KING. Krebs and King was right on Rt 8 in Etna for years, still exists in a new location as Krebs Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram, still on Rt 8, but farther north in Gibsonia PA. They used to have a swap meet every spring at the dealership
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Re: Barn Find Bird
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That’s pretty cool, that they want to check it out! I’ve seen a lot of FY1 ‘birds in this area. Had a numbers FY1 4bbl 4spd car for 26 years. Yeah, I guess yellow was the care for this area. Guess it didn't show dirt as much as the darker colors. LOL
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