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#2426505 - 12/31/17 02:41 PM Steering column interference with race headers
varunner Offline
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Trial fitting some race headers. The steering column shaft is hitting the top of cylinder 7. At the coupler, the shaft is about 1/2" too high. I'm thinking about lowering the engine, raising the steering box, and/or dimpling the header pipe. any thoughts ?


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#2426614 - 12/31/17 04:30 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
Cudajon Offline
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Loc: Oklahoma City OK
Car Craft (I Believe) did a test and dimpling a header had no effect until they got really radical. Lots easier than lowering the engine or raising the steering box which could cause steering geometry problems.

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#2426675 - 12/31/17 05:53 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
varunner Offline
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It's just hard to beat on headers, but I put a pretty healthy dip in them and opened up the mounting holes. Now it's about 1/4" off center. I'm going to keep working it, but even if I get it closer, there will still be an angle between the coupler CL and the steering shaft CL.......

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#2426690 - 12/31/17 06:20 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
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I would buy a piece of mandrel bent tubing then cut and move the tube. twocents
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#2426715 - 12/31/17 06:55 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
dvw Offline
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I agree move the tube. Pretty easy to do. Couple bends trim and weld.
Doug

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#2426719 - 12/31/17 07:00 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
varunner Offline
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If I had a tig welder, I think I'd do that. I'm going to bend the pipe down, and bend it back up out at the collector. I only need to move it an 1/8" at the interference.

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#2426781 - 12/31/17 07:46 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
dvw Offline
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Cut it , fit it, tack it. Then have some one Tig it. I've even Migged them with good results.
Doug

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#2427001 - 01/01/18 09:22 AM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
jlatessa Offline
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Registered: 08/31/09
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Loc: Ohio
There is a good bit of adjustability where the steering column attaches to the firewall, have you used all of it up??

Joe

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#2427004 - 01/01/18 09:32 AM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: dvw]
RapidRobert Offline
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X3, a new piece of header pipe
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#2427037 - 01/01/18 10:42 AM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: RapidRobert]
CrazyD Offline
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Registered: 02/08/03
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X4 cut and replace. Additional consideration - engine movement under acceleration will raise that #7 horizontal pipe even more, Fix it right, compromised steering not worth it.

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#2427177 - 01/01/18 12:59 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
340Cuda Offline
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Registered: 04/04/03
Posts: 2103
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
There is an episode of Engine Masters where they beat crap out of a set of header with no real loss of power so just wacking would probably be okay. However the other solutions offered would certainly be more elligant.

Is it just an optical illusion or is the steering shaft tapered? I thought most were straight. Does it have a power steering to manual adapter.

Good luck with it all.

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#2427273 - 01/01/18 03:00 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
varunner Offline
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The adjustment at the firewall won't help the shaft position at the coupler. So the steering box had some slop in the mounting holes, so I pushed it up. Also bent the pipe around some. This allowed me to connect it all up. The shaft slightly touches, but no pressure. That being said, I agree the right way is to re-route the pipe. But I'm not going to mess with it, so I'm going to call who built them and see if I can just send the one pipe back to him. They are used headers and I was going to re-coat them anyway. After working on this car for 10 yrs I'm running out of gas, but I'm close though. Thanks for the feedback. and happy new yr. to all

Brian

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#2427276 - 01/01/18 03:05 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: 340Cuda]
varunner Offline
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No, it's straight. It was a power steering shaft and I modified it for a manual box. No adapter, just a different coupler.

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#2428259 - 01/03/18 10:25 AM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
MoJoe Offline
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I'm thinking of a combo move...a little dent in the tube, a shim or 2 under the steering box and perhaps a universal joint of some kind.

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#2428360 - 01/03/18 01:25 PM Re: Steering column interference with race headers [Re: varunner]
varunner Offline
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I've already put a sizable dent in it and moved the box up. It's already on it's way back to the guy who built them. They were originally built for a car with a motor plate in super stock, motor is moved around in that class. I'm using regular motor mounts, with a torque strap.

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