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#2425674 - 12/30/17 05:02 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: DAYCLONA]
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I think that we have a winner. laugh2
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#2425719 - 12/30/17 09:06 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: SNK-EYZ]
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Originally Posted By SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
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I think that we have a winner. laugh2


Not production car. They made 55 of them.

I'd imagine there are one of one prototype show cars with one of one wheel covers and or rims.

Here's the rim or predessor to it that 6bblgt mentioned got canceled before production in 1971



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Edited by autoxcuda (12/30/17 09:17 AM)
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#2425808 - 12/30/17 11:23 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: autoxcuda]
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Originally Posted By SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
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I think that we have a winner. laugh2


Not production car. They made 55 of them.








Hmmmm...I saw no nomenclature that required "production" as the criteria for the " what's the rarest Mopar wheel"...IMHO "55" units would denote "production" if that's YOUR requirement?,... wasn't "50 units" the NHRA's minimum requirement to allow the 68 SS Hurst cars to be considered "production units"?... IIRC "50 units" is considered the absolute minimum in the automotive production world to be rendered a "production unit"(ie: BTM Cheetah among many others)?...


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#2425818 - 12/30/17 11:42 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: autoxcuda]
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda


Here's the rim or predessor to it that 6bblgt mentioned got canceled before production in 1971







Aftermarket rim, besides not "Mopar specific" I've seen a few Mopar, AMC and Ford vehicles wearing these over the decades


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#2425824 - 12/30/17 11:49 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Pretty sure NASCAR and NHRA had a minimum 500 production units, hence the '69 Charger "500" name as they had to build "500" of them. And there was an intent to only build "500" of each A12 6BBL Road Runners and A12 Six Pack Super Bees to meet NHRA'S production requirements (and then mess with NHRA on submitting specs as they felt a COPO Camaro with a 427 ZL1 that was allowed into to did have the documentation of "500" built or available at dealerships) quite funny and fun for the engineers at the time.

How many Hemi Darts were built, only 50? If so did it run in a production based class? That would make a difference.


Edited by A12 (12/30/17 12:17 PM)

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#2425825 - 12/30/17 11:49 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: Alaskan_TA]
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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
The 1971 E-bodies had a cast aluminum 15" road wheel canceled very early on. Did any of the earliest cars have them installed?


Chargers too, I forgot about them, but I located my dealership order book with the image;


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#2425850 - 12/30/17 12:14 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Originally Posted By SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
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I think that we have a winner. laugh2


Not production car. They made 55 of them.





EDIT: Apologize on the NHRA production count as it seems it was a minimum of (50) customer's names that had to be submitted to NHRA in order for the car to be legal in the Super Stock division.





Hmmmm...I saw no nomenclature that required "production" as the criteria for the " what's the rarest Mopar wheel"...IMHO "55" units would denote "production" if that's YOUR requirement?,... wasn't "50 units" the NHRA's minimum requirement to allow the 68 SS Hurst cars to be considered "production units"?... IIRC "50 units" is considered the absolute minimum in the automotive production world to be rendered a "production unit"(ie: BTM Cheetah among many others)?...


Edited by A12 (12/30/17 12:22 PM)

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#2425862 - 12/30/17 12:29 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: A12]
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EDIT AGAIN: I SHOULD HAVE READ THE ARTICLE I HAVE FURTHER TO GET TO THE 500 NHRA MINIMUM TO RACE A STOCK OR SUPER STOCK CLASS.


BOTTOM OF PAGE 2 (magazine Page 9) where it reads about the 500 units:

Mike



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Edited by A12 (12/30/17 12:31 PM)

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#2426016 - 12/30/17 05:17 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: Alaskan_TA]
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The 1971 E-bodies had a cast aluminum 15" road wheel canceled very early on. Did any of the earliest cars have them installed?


Chargers too, I forgot about them, but I located my dealership order book with the image;



So Barry is that an aftermarket rim that Chrysler was just going to use?

Or something unique made by Chrysler that just happens to look similar to later aftermarket rims?
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#2426030 - 12/30/17 05:47 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: The Black Car]
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How would I know that Steve?

I have never seen one.

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#2426113 - 12/30/17 08:32 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: The Black Car]
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Originally Posted By The Black Car
I was thinking wheel, but including the cover is a good idea.

The 71 Sport Fury GT wheel is unique, and the wheel cover, actually it's a trim ring, only fits on that specific wheel; none other. With only 375 '71 GT's made and not all of them had these wheels and rings, I'm leaning on this one being the rarest.


They were not limited to only the Sport Fury GT, but were an available option.

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#2426211 - 12/31/17 01:53 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: 69_SIX_PACK]
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Are you sure they were an "option", or available as an ordered part?

My info tells me they were "standard " on a 71 GT, or the Chrysler Rallye Wheel was optional.


Edited by The Black Car (12/31/17 01:54 AM)

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#2426235 - 12/31/17 07:47 AM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: The Black Car]
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#2426525 - 12/31/17 02:56 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: The Black Car]
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Would have to be pretty rare Plymouth Fury to get ordered with those "road wheels" in 71 . . . have only seen on SF GT ! . . .

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#2426739 - 12/31/17 07:14 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: The Black Car]
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I was thinking the same thing. I really like the 1970-71 Sport Furys and I think that one year only wheel gives the '71 a slight advantage in my book.

Thanks Barry for posting that link. Here are a few more showing it was available. I can't ever recall seeing a non GT out in the wild with a set but it would cool to see!

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#2426740 - 12/31/17 07:15 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: The Black Car]
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Some more pics, the last one showing they actually had an unique wheel as well, not just the trim ring and centre cap dressup:

Dave


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#2427195 - 01/01/18 01:14 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: 69_SIX_PACK]
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Originally Posted By 69_SIX_PACK
I was thinking the same thing. I really like the 1970-71 Sport Furys and I think that one year only wheel gives the '71 a slight advantage in my book.


Dave




Perhaps a slight advantage, but I really think the Turbine car wheel treatment is made even rarer, due to the fact 95% of the cars were later destroyed, with only a literal handful left to exist

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#2427221 - 01/01/18 01:42 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By 69_SIX_PACK
I was thinking the same thing. I really like the 1970-71 Sport Furys and I think that one year only wheel gives the '71 a slight advantage in my book.


Dave




Perhaps a slight advantage, but I really think the Turbine car wheel treatment is made even rarer, due to the fact 95% of the cars were later destroyed, with only a literal handful left to exist


The only 71 prototype mag wheel that still exists is on the one Dodge Diamanté owned by Steve Juliano.


Edited by autoxcuda (01/01/18 01:43 PM)

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#2427224 - 01/01/18 01:48 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: autoxcuda]
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
The only 71 prototype mag wheel that still exists is on the one Dodge Diamanté owned by Steve Juliano.


But....

It is coded for 15" Rallyes on the factory invoice.

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#2427386 - 01/01/18 05:50 PM Re: What's the rarest MoPar wheel 1955-1985 [Re: autoxcuda]
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By 69_SIX_PACK
I was thinking the same thing. I really like the 1970-71 Sport Furys and I think that one year only wheel gives the '71 a slight advantage in my book.


Dave




Perhaps a slight advantage, but I really think the Turbine car wheel treatment is made even rarer, due to the fact 95% of the cars were later destroyed, with only a literal handful left to exist


The only 71 prototype mag wheel that still exists is on the one Dodge Diamanté owned by Steve Juliano.





Are you absolutely sure?... besides the fact they're not "production" pieces

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