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1970 Door VIN Tag #2416877
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Does the door printed VIN tag on a vehicle match the month that the fender tag says it is supposed to be built in, or the actual month of the day it was built. For example if the build date on the fender tag says 929, would the door tag say September or October when the car was actually built?

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The Mylar door sticker was one of the very last items to go on the car before leaving the plant.

It shows the actual build month.

The fender tag date is not a 'supposed to', it is the SPD (scheduled production date) which is when they hoped to build the car when the order was first entered into the system.

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My 1970 Valiant is a good example, it has a SPD of 403 for April 3rd, but the door sticker shows March.

So for some reason it was built earlier than 'hoped for'.

Multiple other examples exist, some early & some late.

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Shouldn't the door tag match the VIN tag on the dash, and also the vin on the last part of the fender tag?

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Thanks Barry! As with all things mopar, its about as clear as mud... lol

What would you do? My mylar tag is missing...

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Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
Shouldn't the door tag match the VIN tag on the dash, and also the vin on the last part of the fender tag?


Yes the complete VIN should match the dash tag. Above it is the month and year of production on the door sticker.

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If I could find another example around my VIN that would really help...

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It happens.

Yes, the VINs should match, but the month may not.

Do you have a broadcast sheet for it?

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No broadcast sheet.

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Originally Posted By Cuda340
If I could find another example around my VIN that would really help...


Not really.

They were built so far out of VIN order at times that another close VIN with a date is not enough.

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Originally Posted By Cuda340
Thanks Barry! As with all things mopar, its about as clear as mud... lol

What would you do? My mylar tag is missing...


Have ESC make you a new sticker and use the SPD or if you really think it's a month off look at the date code on your K frame. Rumor is that it is the date closest to when your car was built.

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Originally Posted By Morty426
Originally Posted By Cuda340
Thanks Barry! As with all things mopar, its about as clear as mud... lol

What would you do? My mylar tag is missing...


Have ESC make you a new sticker and use the SPD or if you really think it's a month off look at the date code on your K frame. Rumor is that it is the date closest to when your car was built.


I'll have to check the date on the K-frame. I am leaning towards October, but some of the sheetmetal stamps like on the inner fender says 9/29/69.

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without a broadcast sheet - plant & car model would help to answer the question

Hamtramck assembly line #1: I have info for 929 "SCHEDULED" cars built 2-days early thru 10/7 a week + late.

Lynch Rd. K-frame dates are a great clue, but it appears the same assembly procedures were not used at Hamtramck

Have you found any dated components with October dates that appear original to the car?

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Hi Dan, we spoke a little about the car before. 1970 Super Bee WM23V0A136175. Lynch road car. I didn’t take the car apart, and it is missing some of its original components. So it is kind of difficult to tell. I can check the k frame and possibly the wiper motor. Any other good clue areas?

The date on the k-frame is right in the center on the front correct? I’ll have to clean some paint off

Jeff

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That's the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) label and has nothing to do with a fender tag Scheduled Production Date or any broadcast sheet SPD. The date on it is the ACUTAL month and year that it rolled off the assembly line or actually left the factory headed to the dealership or lot pickup, and ALL Federally mandated safety items were installed and in place and the entire vehicle was in Federal Safety Standards compliance........"on the date above".

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WM23V0A136175 w/929-SPD

OCTOBER (10-1969) twocents "In Plant/In Process" at least 2-weeks LATE

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One of my 70 Sixpack Bees has a SPD of 10/6/69 and the mylar sticker is 10/69

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not the perfect example, but .....
Superbird RM23V0A171644 w/B30-SPD ("restored" in the '90s w/~60K miles on it)
based on the assigned VIN sequence it should have had a C01-SPD

all believed to be original to the car:

power steering box casting date 9299 = Monday 9/29/69
LH lower control arm stamped 301/921 = 301st day, Tuesday 10/28/69 (shift 2 line 1)
K-frame stamped 3229 1 = 322nd day, Tuesday 11/18/69 (shift 1)

car arrived at Clairpointe from Lynch Rd. Friday 11/28/69
car left Clairpointe Monday 12/1/69

Brennan Cook - SUPERBIRD pages

door sticker 12/69

Superbird 9299.jpgSuperbird 301 9.jpgSuperbird 3229.jpgSuperbird 12-69.jpg
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
not the perfect example, but .....
Superbird RM23V0A171644 w/B30-SPD ("restored" in the '90s w/~60K miles on it)

all believed to be original to the car:

power steering box casting date 9299 = Monday 9/29/69
LH lower control arm stamped 301/921 = 301st day, Tuesday 10/28/69 (shift 2 line 1)
K-frame stamped 3229 1 = 322nd day, Tuesday 11/18/69 (shift 1)

car arrived at Clairpointe from Lynch Rd. Friday 11/28/69
car left Clairpointe Monday 12/1/69

Brennan Cook - SUPERBIRD pages

door sticker 12/69


That is very interesting that the sticker reflects when it left Clairpointe rather than Lynch Rd. Would never have guessed that.

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