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Re: End of season oil change [Re: 71birdJ68] #2412727
12/03/17 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
It has a lot to do with what kind of building the car is stored in.


So true, especially dependent an what part of the country you live in..

In Florida there is no "bedtime" as we here can use our toys all year round....

Personally I believe in the before I put the car to bed theory of getting the contaminated oil out and clean new oil circulated throughout the system..

Anymore, if the oil is clean I just put it to bed as is, even driving it another season with the same oil.. First good warm up and drive will burn out all of the condensation..

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dr Dave] #2413031
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I read a storage post from an oil expert and they suggested to chance oil when putting car in storage and not to start the car at all until removing from storage.They said just starting the car when doing the oil change alone would put acid in the oil and defeat the purpose.

Re: End of season oil change [Re: second 70] #2413219
12/04/17 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By rapom
The acid in the oil etching the bearings while in storage theory is why I change my oil before storage now.

Plus it seems like every small engine manual says to do it before storage.


I've heard this before a lot too. I don't have any data to back up my claims but I've pulled apart several engines that were sitting for years in old oil and I have never been able to find any sort of wear, damage or corrosion from sitting in used oil.

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I read a storage post from an oil expert and they suggested to chance oil when putting car in storage and not to start the car at all until removing from storage.They said just starting the car when doing the oil change alone would put acid in the oil and defeat the purpose.


So according to your expert, what's the difference between storing an engine with used oil vs an engine with new oil in the pan but used oil still on all the bearing surfaces as it would be after an oil change if you didn't start the engine to cycle it through?

Re: End of season oil change [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2413350
12/05/17 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Originally Posted By rapom
The acid in the oil etching the bearings while in storage theory is why I change my oil before storage now.

Plus it seems like every small engine manual says to do it before storage.


I've heard this before a lot too. I don't have any data to back up my claims but I've pulled apart several engines that were sitting for years in old oil and I have never been able to find any sort of wear, damage or corrosion from sitting in used oil.

Originally Posted By second 70
I read a storage post from an oil expert and they suggested to chance oil when putting car in storage and not to start the car at all until removing from storage.They said just starting the car when doing the oil change alone would put acid in the oil and defeat the purpose.


So according to your expert, what's the difference between storing an engine with used oil vs an engine with new oil in the pan but used oil still on all the bearing surfaces as it would be after an oil change if you didn't start the engine to cycle it through?



For me the stored car should sit with fresh oil vs used but the biggest killer for any engine is dry start ups. Changing the oil then not starting it until 5 months later is definitely not shortening the time for oil pressure to develop.
Quick oil pressure right after fire up is the key to long engine life. That is why I prefill my filters and start the engine as soon as the new oil is poured in.


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Re: End of season oil change [Re: Magnum] #2413432
12/05/17 02:57 AM
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Yeah that oil pro statement makes ZERO sense. You have to start it to check for leaks or you are not done with your oil change. shruggy

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dave Hall] #2413478
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
Yeah that oil pro statement makes ZERO sense. You have to start it to check for leaks or you are not done with your oil change. shruggy


I think what he means is, do not start the car during storage.


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Re: End of season oil change [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2413579
12/05/17 02:41 PM
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Didn’t say I agree with it. It just said a single startup puts acid in the oil.

I don’t change my oil before or after storage if it doesn’t have hardly any miles on it and I’ve never had any problems.

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dr Dave] #2413984
12/06/17 12:51 AM
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The acid in the oil may be true in theory but the amount after running it for a few minutes after the oil change would be absolutely minor.

The only part is agree with is NOT starting it up while in storage. Idling will not get the oil hot enough to get rid of the moisture.

As for all the other ways to do the end of season change. I'm sure nobody will have any problems. Nobody is going to ruin their engine by doing some other method, we are just sharing the best way to do it.


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Re: End of season oil change [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2414032
12/06/17 02:18 AM
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The first thing I do after an oil change is start the thing and make sure it's got pressure and isn't leaking. I shine a flashlight at the filter base and plug.

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dr Dave] #2414473
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On my seldom driven car (300-500 miles per year) I change the oil once a year in January. I use Brad Penn "green" oil.

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dr Dave] #2414983
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My car gets driven up until about the end of November and I drive it again many times in March. It sits about 3 months and I actually start the car and run it a good 1/2 hr every week or two in the three months I dont bring it out. If my oil is not dirty like this year I wait and change it after I bring it out in March. Ron

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dr Dave] #2416731
12/11/17 01:21 PM
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Wants to change oil after a few hundred miles...

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Re: End of season oil change [Re: Commando1] #2416765
12/11/17 02:21 PM
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There is also a oil for pickling an inactive engine.

Re: End of season oil change [Re: Dr Dave] #2416921
12/11/17 07:35 PM
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If it's dry out I drive it once in a while. She runs better when it's cold out. boogie

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