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#2409223 - 11/26/17 03:51 PM Pentastar, Lower RH Fender
AAR#2 Offline
mopar

Registered: 10/02/11
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So I always believed I knew the answer until I went to purchase one today . . .
Gold is what I always believed to be correct (1st pic)
Then I found one listed on-line as silver (2nd Pic)
3rd pic is of my original as it was removed from the car, and while it carries a yellow tint it certainly is not like the 1st photo, and actually more like the 2nd.
So is photo 1 correct and these things fade with time/cleaning?

Hopefully one of you has a great pic of a pampered survivor.

As always, appreciate the help.


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#2409261 - 11/26/17 05:16 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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Different years I think, 60's stuff I remember being goldish then going to plain chrome in the 70's.

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#2409272 - 11/26/17 05:54 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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Looking at my cars at the shop, all my 70 survivors parts cars are silver. A 69 NYer is silver. My 68 down are the gold ones.

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#2409461 - 11/26/17 11:02 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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Gold is correct...

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#2409511 - 11/27/17 07:25 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
AAR#2 Offline
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Well now, that certainly clears things up . . .

To be clear, its for a 70, AAR specifically . . .

I may try pulling my original apart and seeing if there are any signs of color on the back.

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#2409513 - 11/27/17 07:37 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
fastmark Offline
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Well, looking at my original paint AAR in my garage at the house and it has a silver one just like the two lower photos. I’ve had it since 76. My original paint 70 Charger is a two owner car and it is the same silver. I’ve got some original paint fenders at the shop. I can look on those but I think I’ll keep the silver ones on my 70 model cars.

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#2409519 - 11/27/17 08:05 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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Thanks Fastmark, I know I've used your collection in the past and no reason to doubt them. Perhaps this is another case where I thought I knew something and didn't. Part of whats throwing me is my original isn't perfect silver and does carry a slight yellow tint, but perhaps this is from a protective clear that may have been used to keep the small foil insert from corroding?

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#2409555 - 11/27/17 09:40 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
fastmark Offline
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I wound say the SLIGHT yellow tint is what they started out at in 70. The years of use would fade them for sure to what I see as silver. I have some NOS one that I bought years ago but can’t lay my hands on them. I can’t remember what color they are. That will not help us with assembly line correct, though. Mopar was bad about superseding part to incorrect ones. The gold ones on my early cars are very gold.

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#2409564 - 11/27/17 09:49 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
fastmark Offline
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I just checked a 71 Challenger and a 69 Coronet original paint fenders in my stock and both are the lighter silver color.

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#2409606 - 11/27/17 11:24 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
QuickBpBp Offline
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My cars all have gold ones 1964 up to my 72 RR/GTX. Only change was metal to plastic. Silver ones I have seen were used on late eighties and 90's vehicles....
One reproduction silver pentastar notes that they were used specifically in Canada...


Edited by QuickBpBp (11/27/17 11:28 AM)

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#2409809 - 11/27/17 06:33 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
71GTX471 Offline
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Iv always remembered seeing originals on vehicles being gold & faded,the NOS one I have is gold.

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#2409885 - 11/27/17 08:47 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: QuickBpBp]
flypaper Offline
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Originally Posted By QuickBpBp
Gold is correct...


iagree

silver was a faded gold one or a 80's thing..
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#2409893 - 11/27/17 08:54 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
Aar1064 Offline
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My AAR had the gold version and as you can see as a result of light sanding that it was once gold. The aluminum Pentastar came loose from the black plastic base and a pic of the backside verifies this.


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#2409991 - 11/28/17 12:40 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
65pacecar Offline
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I have a Survivor 65 Sport Fury, it is Gold.

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#2410021 - 11/28/17 06:46 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
fastmark Offline
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Maybe it’s a fading issue. Idk. But I have too many original cars in the silver( possibly light yellow gold) to just dismiss it. NOS will not help us any. I bought NOS trim rings and center caps for my 70 model 15x7 rally wheels. They came in as dark argent 71 caps and 15x6.5 rings. Mopar did that a lot. They sold you what they had. Take your pick, I guess.

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#2410032 - 11/28/17 07:57 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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So I cleaned mine as well and clearly can see the out side surface is a light yellow gold, perhaps brass in color. Interestingly the back surface appears to be bare aluminum.

So the "Authentic Restoration" ones look to dark gold
The silver isn't correct
Countless versions of ones with incorrect stars that appear more like straight black lines.
Goodmark makes one that appears pretty good (just based on the photo)

Anyone with OCD tendencies manage to find ones they can back??

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#2410045 - 11/28/17 08:34 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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Gold

NOS are gold, any NOS silver ones?
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#2410070 - 11/28/17 09:39 AM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
RJS Offline
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Originally Posted By AAR#2
So I cleaned mine as well and clearly can see the out side surface is a light yellow gold, perhaps brass in color. Interestingly the back surface appears to be bare aluminum.

So the "Authentic Restoration" ones look to dark gold
The silver isn't correct
Countless versions of ones with incorrect stars that appear more like straight black lines.
Goodmark makes one that appears pretty good (just based on the photo)

Anyone with OCD tendencies manage to find ones they can back??


I can assure you ANYTHING Goodmark makes for our cars is INCORRECT!!!
Ron

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#2410383 - 11/28/17 08:02 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
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mopar

Registered: 10/02/11
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Only because it’s interesting, inspired by my good friend AAR1064, I decided to clean mine a bit better.
First pic is top surface in daylight to eliminate any tint from light bulbs, second is back side.
Unlike AAR1064, only the top surface was plated/anodized. I suspect another case where the lowest bidder gets the work.


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#2410757 - 11/29/17 01:28 PM Re: Pentastar, Lower RH Fender [Re: AAR#2]
BlueRacer69 Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Yes they did fade or lighten up over time and with washing. But originally they were gold color, at least in 69 & 70. Can't speak for other years. I still own my original non restored 69 Dart and it still has the original pentastar on the fender and it still retains some of the gold color.

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