Re: Fuel line size question
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Both my s/strip 340 cuda and the 440 race Cuda had 1/2" lines. Some may say that is overkill and they went quick with 3/8", I say do it the once.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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Both my s/strip 340 cuda and the 440 race Cuda had 1/2" lines. Some may say that is overkill and they went quick with 3/8", I say do it the once. Old stocker trick. Run 1/2" from the pump to the carb. It's like having an extra fuel bowl of fuel. On the carb fittings, remove the filters (assuming you are running a Holley). Then hog out the inside of the fitting.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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Both my s/strip 340 cuda and the 440 race Cuda had 1/2" lines. Some may say that is overkill and they went quick with 3/8", I say do it the once. Nice... I was thinking 1/2 inch anyways
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Re: Fuel line size question
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Starting to button up some necessary things on my abody and wondering what everyone recommends for fuel line size. RB 512, AED 1050 Will be a nitrous car but will run a separate fuel line for that A lot has to do w/pump design and the bigger pumps need bigger line period. My Magnafuel 300 series pump needs a #10 from the pump to the regulator and bypasses directly back into the cell. Now a Mallory 140 or Holley equivalent can run 1/2 but not the other way around............
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Re: Fuel line size question
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Some of the #8 AN flex lines are not .500 I.D. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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If needed, higher pump pressure (like 60) allows use of a significantly smaller line.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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If needed, higher pump pressure (like 60) allows use of a significantly smaller line. And if you call the fuel pump companies and talk to them about their BIG pumps, it's the opposite due to "resistance" and bad back pressure...........
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Fuel line size question
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Except for every EFI car (and that means EVERY car) made since the 1980s, which are regulated down to (frequently) 43.5 psi at the rail.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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Except for every EFI car (and that means EVERY car) made since the 1980s, which are regulated down to (frequently) 43.5 psi at the rail. I use 55 PSI so the fuel will atomize better on EFI.. Chrysler did it for years on muli-point injection
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Re: Fuel line size question
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There is hydraulic engineering math for the output of a fuel line in ID vs. pressure. Fuel flow varies (roughly) with the square of the inside diameter (actually slightly more due to Poiseville, etc.). 5/16" = .077 In.2, 1/2" = .196 in.2, more than 2-1/2 X as much. Flow varies with the square root of the new vs. old pressure. Holley "blue" = 14 psi, EFI 55 psi? 55 ÷ 14 = 3.93 3.93^.5 = 1.98 A 55 psi EFI pump flows 198% as much as a Holley blue, which makes a 5/16" line @ 55 psi flow as much as a 7/16" Holley-fed line.
Obviously, regulate it down to what you need at the last moment.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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I use a 1/2" sending unit in my stock fuel tank, 1/2" line up to the regulator, and 3/8" line(-6) from the regulator to the fuel bowls.
The regulator is a Holley return style, so I run 1/2" line out the bottom of the regulator, all the way to the stock fuel filler tube.
The Aeromotive pump runs a lot quieter and cooler since switching to this setup.
Regulator is set at 5.5 psi.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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I run a 5/16 line up to the Carter street/strip mechanical pump. 3/8 from the pump to the carb (no particular reason). Seems to run 121 mph and past without nosing over.
Has a seperate, dedicated fuel system for the new N20 system. (Oops, did I say that out loud?!)
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Re: Fuel line size question
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I redid my fuel line last year. Went with 1/2” all the way from the stock tank through (2) pumps to the carb. Found a stock style pickup with 1/2” tubing on eBay. The fuel pressure became much more consistent, as did the car. I’m sure 1/2” is overkill for my street / strip car, but as long as I was bending line, I figured there was no reason to go smaller.
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Re: Fuel line size question
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I run a 5/16 line up to the Carter street/strip mechanical pump. 3/8 from the pump to the carb (no particular reason). Seems to run 121 mph and past without nosing over.
Has a seperate, dedicated fuel system for the new N20 system. (Oops, did I say that out loud?!) Ah looking to cheat a little ey ?? LoL Just kidding. We still have the stock 5/16 line on my sons Dart and its still pulling good through the traps running 11.40's @ 117. I keep telling him to change it as we even have 3/8 line for it but its running good for what it is so he has been putting off replacing the line for now. Ron
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Re: Fuel line size question
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I redid my fuel line last year. Went with 1/2” all the way from the stock tank through (2) pumps to the carb. Found a stock style pickup with 1/2” tubing on eBay. The fuel pressure became much more consistent, as did the car. I’m sure 1/2” is overkill for my street / strip car, but as long as I was bending line, I figured there was no reason to go smaller. I dont blame you as now your good to go if you want to go a good bit faster one day. I only went with 3/8 because I wanted to run it in the stock location and clips and I know I dont want to ever put it in the 9's even if I had the money because it will stay a street car as long as I own it and I dont want to do all the updats to run in the 9's for a street car like a full cage as I like just the 6 point bar for driving on the street. And I figure 3/8 should be fine for even lower 10's if I ever decide to do some improvements. But you did the right thing going with 1/2". Ron
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