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indy max block oiling #240474 03/01/09 10:06 PM 03/01/09 10:06 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va P plycuda OP mopar
plycuda OP mopar P Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va	I saw them talking about drillng out the holes in between the lifters. Did anybody try it and run yet to see if it helped. I'm about to put mine together and want to try something first.

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: plycuda] #240475 03/01/09 10:28 PM 03/01/09 10:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca. boatracer572 super stock
boatracer572 super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca.	Did you get the block drilled for pushrod oiling? 5063568-_WI_0326.jpg (164 downloads)

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: boatracer572] #240476 03/01/09 10:40 PM 03/01/09 10:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va P plycuda OP mopar
plycuda OP mopar P Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va	no, I'm gona try the spray bars. I tryed to call indy' that was before they bought predator and they acted like their normal self. told me those heads are junk and gave me a bunch of crap so I decided they aren't getting any of my money. I bet now that they are making them they are the greatest things in the world.

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: plycuda] #240477 03/01/09 11:02 PM 03/01/09 11:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca. boatracer572 super stock
boatracer572 super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca.	You may have a problem burning up pushrods with the spray bars!you could build a oil manifold with brake line and drill and tap every lifter bore to pushrod oil! I have seen It done many times before! 5063665-_WI_0326.jpg (161 downloads)

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: boatracer572] #240478 03/01/09 11:16 PM 03/01/09 11:16 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Many, many seasons with spray bars, no problems, a friend of mine has been running them at least 5 years longer than me, never replaced a single valve train part. No need to drill the lifter bores for this. I do suggest running ball/ball end push rods though. And have cup adjusters.. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: Bob_Coomer] #240479 03/01/09 11:22 PM 03/01/09 11:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca. boatracer572 super stock
boatracer572 super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca.	I also ran spray bars for years with my 440-1 heads,But that was with valve springs that were much weaker than the ones that I currently run (1290lbs open)or the ones that plycuda runs! 5063709-_WI_0326.jpg (88 downloads)

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: boatracer572] #240480 03/01/09 11:28 PM 03/01/09 11:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Valve springs will be the last thing to burn up from lack of oil.... I ran spring pressures, near 800lbs open pressure. IMO I don't see a bunch of extra heat coming off the valve springs due to more spring pressure. If anything gets burnt up, it will be the little parts in the top, push rod cups, adjusters etc. I know personally 4-5 guys running the Jesel stuff with zero problems besides me. Just stating my experiences.. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: boatracer572] #240481 03/01/09 11:56 PM 03/01/09 11:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 778 Sherwood park, Alberta. go green super stock
go green super stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 778 Sherwood park, Alberta.	Quote: You may have a problem burning up pushrods with the spray bars!you could build a oil manifold with brake line and drill and tap every lifter bore to pushrod oil! I have seen It done many times before! Like this. 5063808-4949088-2009cuda033.jpg (282 downloads) 6.50 @ 226 MPH 4.25 @ 186 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX86DHGKBo0

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: Bob_Coomer] #240482 03/02/09 12:07 AM 03/02/09 12:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca. boatracer572 super stock
boatracer572 super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,049 San Jose Ca.	I was refuring to the excessive spring pressure burning up pushrod tips and spring cups because of lack of pressurized oil!My INDY stuff lived a long time with spray bars and valve springs that were 850lb. open! I wouldent even attempt a spray bar with what I have now! 5063834-_WI_0326.jpg (84 downloads)

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: go green] #240483 03/02/09 12:21 AM 03/02/09 12:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az D Darryls-Demon super stock
Darryls-Demon super stock D Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az	Quote: Quote: You may have a problem burning up pushrods with the spray bars!you could build a oil manifold with brake line and drill and tap every lifter bore to pushrod oil! I have seen It done many times before! Like this. Yikes, I want to switch my Indy block to push rod oiling. Is this the only way to do it?

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: Darryls-Demon] #240484 03/02/09 01:23 AM 03/02/09 01:23 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 435 land of the free T ts racer mopar
ts racer mopar T Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 435 land of the free	Spray bars are fine, their are many guys running low 7's with spray bars with no problems..

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: go green] #240485 03/02/09 07:42 AM 03/02/09 07:42 AM
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CokeBottleKid master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,180 Detroit, MI	Quote: Quote: You may have a problem burning up pushrods with the spray bars!you could build a oil manifold with brake line and drill and tap every lifter bore to pushrod oil! I have seen It done many times before! Like this. Wow that's alot of hassle for pushrod oiling

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: ts racer] #240486 03/02/09 09:10 AM 03/02/09 09:10 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	I agree with TS, spray bars work just fine. Use quality parts, pay attention to detail and everything works just fine. If I had to maniflod/plumb a block like that, I'd just have it drilled out. Thats a lot of work, but I am sure it works. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #240487 03/02/09 10:49 AM 03/02/09 10:49 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Can any standard block be drilled for push rod oiling, and does anyone have a pic? '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: Dragula] #240488 03/02/09 10:54 AM 03/02/09 10:54 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Why not just drill the block for hydraulic lifter oiling?It's the same as stock oiling. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: B G Racing] #240489 03/02/09 12:22 PM 03/02/09 12:22 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Why not just drill the block for hydraulic lifter oiling?It's the same as stock oiling. Didn't even know there was a difference, please explain, because my last one ate evry push rod I put in it. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: Dragula] #240490 03/02/09 12:50 PM 03/02/09 12:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Indy blocks can be drilled(blanks at rear of block)for conventional lifter oiling passages.Drilling is done from the back to the front passing through each lifter bore,a must for hydraulic lifter or pushrod oiling.Indy offers this on their aluminum blocks for $250.A competent machine shop can also do the job. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: B G Racing] #240491 03/02/09 02:16 PM 03/02/09 02:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va P plycuda OP mopar
plycuda OP mopar P Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va	I called a bunch of machine shops and all of them said they can't do it. after talking to indy like I said they will not get any of my money.

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: plycuda] #240492 03/02/09 02:25 PM 03/02/09 02:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,432 NorCal RylisPro top fuel
RylisPro top fuel Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,432 NorCal	Muscle Motors Bushed and drilled mine for pushrod oiling just be prepared to wait a really long time to get anything worked on back from them 73 `Cuda Instagram: @rylispro YouTube: RylisPro www.rylispro.com 925-214-9192

Re: indy max block oiling [Re: plycuda] #240493 03/02/09 06:36 PM 03/02/09 06:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: I called a bunch of machine shops and all of them said they can't do it. after talking to indy like I said they will not get any of my money. I wouldn't let the best heart surgeon operate on me if I didn't like his attitude either. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

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