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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: cudadoug] #2408395
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
The big question in my mind is can you bolt it up to a 727, or do you need a $5000 transmission??


You just need the correct flexplate and a small block 727/904. ATI and mopar performance make an SFI version of the flexplate.

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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: cudadoug] #2408523
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By Lost in life
That's a bargain to run 9's. Wish it were that cheap to make my dart run that quick! Add a zero and you would be more realistic.


You're not counting the cost of the Car.....
So, $50K+ to run 9's isn't a bargain.....


As well said earlier, this offering isn't for everyone...nothing usually is! But for the guy who already has the car it's a pretty good deal of for that power level, along with reliability. Raise your had if you've ever grenaded a high compression, roller cammed 700+ HP motor?

The big question in my mind is can you bolt it up to a 727, or do you need a $5000 transmission??

Someone do the math...
Iron aftermarket block
350 cfm heads and valvetrain
Stroker assembly
Turbo or blower to run low compression and "pump gas"
EFI
Etc...

Will you surpass the $15K mark? I'm thinking so.



They're also only a pulley, tune and injectors away from near 1000HP

Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: SRT6776] #2408531
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Originally Posted By sp392
Originally Posted By cudadoug
Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By Lost in life
That's a bargain to run 9's. Wish it were that cheap to make my dart run that quick! Add a zero and you would be more realistic.


You're not counting the cost of the Car.....
So, $50K+ to run 9's isn't a bargain.....


As well said earlier, this offering isn't for everyone...nothing usually is! But for the guy who already has the car it's a pretty good deal of for that power level, along with reliability. Raise your had if you've ever grenaded a high compression, roller cammed 700+ HP motor?

The big question in my mind is can you bolt it up to a 727, or do you need a $5000 transmission??

Someone do the math...
Iron aftermarket block
350 cfm heads and valvetrain
Stroker assembly
Turbo or blower to run low compression and "pump gas"
EFI
Etc...

Will you surpass the $15K mark? I'm thinking so.



They're also only a pulley, tune and injectors away from near 1000HP


Well, then there is that...

Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: sublimehemi] #2408536
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Does the hellcrate require any "drive by wire" crap or will an old school throttle cable work?

Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: sublimehemi] #2408729
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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: MattW] #2408880
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Originally Posted By MattW
My back tells me a bare block BGE is over 200 lbs






Mat , Hate to do this to you, but according to the scale it's the same as the 6.1 and pre Eagle 5.7

Top 2014 BGE, Middle 2008 6.1 Bottom 2005 5.7

BGE Weight.jpg6.1 Weight 199.jpgPre Eagle 5.7 Weight 195 Lbs.jpg
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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: ric3xrt] #2408948
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Come on! I used a bathroom scale!
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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: sublimehemi] #2409024
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I have some short block and long block weight's photos around here somewhere, I'll post them up in the G3 area as soon as I find them.
The Hellcat weight for a complete engine minus accessories should realistically be about 525-550 if the intake is a 110 Lbs( not doubting that number , I just can't confirm it yet)
a 6.1 Long block with timing cover is 405,(I'll double check on that tomorrow.


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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: ric3xrt] #2409082
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Originally Posted By ric3xrt
Originally Posted By MattW
My back tells me a bare block BGE is over 200 lbs







Mat , Hate to do this to you, but according to the scale it's the same as the 6.1 and pre Eagle 5.7

Top 2014 BGE, Middle 2008 6.1 Bottom 2005 5.7



Uh....Those look like ink buckets.

Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: camastomcat] #2409097
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Those are floor epoxies and urethane coatings, we do those and Aerospace along with R&D for specialty coatings.

Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: CTD5.9] #2409113
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So for those that think its not a good deal, here is a proven G3 combo up for sale!

https://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Super-S...en-3-Hemis.html


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: Dragula] #2409134
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Originally Posted By Dragula
So for those that think its not a good deal, here is a proven G3 combo up for sale!

https://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Super-S...en-3-Hemis.html


Those appear to be Geoff Turk's motors. boogie


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Re: hellcat crate $14.996 great deal [Re: slantzilla] #2409145
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How many guys on this site do you see walking in and laying down 15000.00 plus the extra 2000.00 to get the wiring. Now that’s just to get it home to take some Facebook pictures. Now we gotta get it in the car and running. Now subtract the guys on here that do their own engine builds and if building an engine with this much money in our pocket would want a clean build sheet to go faster and an aluminum block. I know I would


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