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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402025
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one more question, do you have a stock dipstick or a "custom" dipstick?


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: sr4440] #2402245
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Originally Posted By sr4440
Originally Posted By Kindafast
No not unless I really rev it up. That is the only way I can get the wheels to turn at all. Forward or reverse just a little harder in reverse.


1. no trash in pan
2. fluid not burnt
3. have pressure in high gear at idle
4. only moves when revved up in all gears.

= converter is broken

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Fluid is in perfect condition , Have pressure in high gear and only moves when revved up.
I hope you are right because I am so damn tired of pulling this thing out. LOL Sending Converter to Dynamic Converters Monday !!! Fingers crossed it don't cost me an arm and a leg.. I am broke..


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402247
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The dipstick is a locking type for NHRA . But it was wayyyyy overful of fluid.,


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402266
11/12/17 12:00 AM
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If you installed the normal amount of fluid as usual and now you show too much on the stick then the converter is not full. The torque converter conteol valve fills the converter but you said you installed another valve body. And you said you had good cooler flow earlier in your post.

If you pull the trans check the converter. It's probably partially full - will give you exactly the condition you complain of.

Something's being missed, things are not adding up.

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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402279
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I did put way more than the amount of fluid the transmission calls for and it was way overfull. When I pulled the transmission out and turned the converter over a lot of fluid came out. Don't know how much the converter holds but it had a lot of fluid in it.


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402289
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Again, rollerized low reverse drum?

Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Leigh] #2402387
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I am sorry for not answering eariler , but yes rollerized alum drum..


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402472
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Thanks for clarifying. Have your transmission tech, check for the seals on the rollerized componets. The leakage causes the symptoms you are describing.

Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402487
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Thank you for your reply but wouldn't that have been an issue as soon as I tried to move the car ? I had put about 5 or better miles on it and it was working fine and when I went to make a pass it would move at all until I revved it up.Just all of a sudden nothing ??


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402496
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There is an area of the output shaft, that needs to be champfered, or the seal lip gets damaged. I suppose it's possible that cold atf is viscous enough to slow the leak. Since the trans is out, it's free to look. Hope you get it figured out!

Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402548
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I sure will check it out again to make sure !!! Thanks , this thing is driving me crazy. LOL


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2402577
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If you lived nearby I would be over there to at least give you moral support. And maybe hold the light for you. LOL. Been there done that and have pictures to prove it, just as a reminder of how much I love racing.


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2402683
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
If you lived nearby I would be over there to at least give you moral support. And maybe hold the light for you. LOL. Been there done that and have pictures to prove it, just as a reminder of how much I love racing.


Thank you my brother , us old dudes know how bad crawling under a car for years and years can feel. LOL. It's funny though , for all the crap these cars give us I have never thought of giving up. Just suck it up and hopefully get another pass or two..


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Leigh] #2402687
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Originally Posted By Leigh
Thanks for clarifying. Have your transmission tech, check for the seals on the rollerized componets. The leakage causes the symptoms you are describing.


Most roller supports don't have seals and leakage at the lube system wouldn't account for the normal line pressure tested at the front servo.


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Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
Originally Posted By Leigh
Thanks for clarifying. Have your transmission tech, check for the seals on the rollerized componets. The leakage causes the symptoms you are describing.


Most roller supports don't have seals and leakage at the lube system wouldn't account for the normal line pressure tested at the front servo.

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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Leigh] #2402725
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Note the word "most". Always exceptions.


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I have only installed seal included output shaft supports for customers using roller low reverse drums, hence, I can't comment on other types of designs. A racer friend called me, telling me that he had to apply more than usual throttle, to get the car to creep forward. I wasn't involved with the build, so we went through the flow chart. Knowing he is anal, I started wondering what we missing. The answer was unsealed torringtons. Once corrected, the trans was fine. Since I wasn't there, I have no idea what test pressures were, or weren't showing at the servos.

Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2404624
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Another 400.00 shot in the butt over a converter that checked out fine. The guy at Dynamic said to check the reaction shaft behind the pump to see if the plugs came out ???? What the heck is that ? Help !!!


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Re: Before I pull the transmission out again Question ? [Re: Kindafast] #2404909
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There are balls pressed in the reaction shaft support housing to seal the oil galleys. I would assume they are describing these. I would just swap entire reaction shaft,support assembly if that was suspect.

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