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#2388551 - 10/17/17 12:31 AM Advice on business idea
SeaninSD Offline
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What is your opinion on a classic car detailing service? Would you pay for it and how much? All input is appreciated. Thanks

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#2388555 - 10/17/17 12:56 AM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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I don`t have any experience in that type of business so I`m just speaking my thoughts. I would think that most people that have a classic car would detail the car themselves. It may do well depending on the area you will do business. I doubt around my area it would do very well. If I would pay someone to do it I would think $100+ for a full detail is fair.

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#2388666 - 10/17/17 09:41 AM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: mopars4ever]
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There are guys here who jump from body shop to body shop doing wet sanding and buffing work on freshly painted cars. Seems painters don't like doing it, or don't have the time so they sub it out. Not sure if one could do that and talk them into a full detailing as well?

When I to go shows I see old cars that have been restored and have been driven enough that they could use a good cleaning. Seems weird to spend money on a car and not clean it up at least once a year.


Edited by Neil (10/17/17 09:54 AM)

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#2388677 - 10/17/17 09:57 AM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: Neil]
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I hate detailing cars, did it for a living when I was young and a last year I was delivering semi tractors who had to be detailed by me first. I quit that job after a year. tsk I gladly pay someone to detail, there are tons of shops around my are because we are a lake community and 75% of their business is detailing boats. I am about to open a car storage facility and am thinking about hiring a detail guy since the building comes with a wash bay. You really need to see how many of those type businesses are already in your area and also think about the boat side of it. work The stretch limo I was driving earlier this year had to be detailed constantly, and the owner had me take it to a shop who charged $225 for it plus tips.


Edited by Rhinodart (10/17/17 09:58 AM)
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#2388739 - 10/17/17 12:20 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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Originally Posted By SeaninSD
What is your opinion on a classic car detailing service? Would you pay for it and how much? All input is appreciated. Thanks


Why limit yourself? Sure, classic car detailing will be fine if you are going for the top 1% of cars out there and getting them ready for concours and whatnot, but the vast majority of classic car owners tend to their own stuff.

Any given weekend, I can drive through some of the more economically disadvantaged neighborhoods in town and every strip mall parking lot will have a guy there with a full-size van and a mobile detailing service. They charge 1-250 bucks for a full service, depending on the size of the car and the service they provide, The good ones always have a line of cars waiting. Many of them even have large pop-ups that park the cars under to detail them.

During the week, those same guys go business-to-business doing everything from standard washes to full details and some of them have contracts with car dealerships to wash their inventory periodically.

Just a thought.
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#2388746 - 10/17/17 12:29 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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What type of insurance would you carry to work on classic cars so if YOU made an error and it would take paint work?

Id be hard pressed to let any "detail" guy touch my cars.

Like posted, why limit yourself to classics?

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#2388752 - 10/17/17 12:49 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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#2388753 - 10/17/17 12:53 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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Expanding the idea to include all cars instead of just classics would certainly be more lucrative. I made a post on the Next Door website for my neighborhood volunteering myself for any general labor/tasks people need done around home. Hopefully I'll get some responses and can sell a detailing service too

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#2388758 - 10/17/17 01:07 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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Might see if there is a way to estimate the number of classics in your area before you leap in. Maybe see if places like Haggerty Insurance can provide non-customer specific information like number of cars/policies in the area or areas you want to set up shop at. Or ask local car clubs if they can give you their total membership number. As long as you aren't asking specifics about the poeple or cars, I would think most places would supply this for market research purposes.

I would also consider that classic car guys will be pickier than the average 30 something couple dropping their car off at the detail shop to have the kids cheerios vacuumed out of the carpet.

You'll proabably have people who want specific products used. So you might need quite an inventory of supplies to keep everyone happy. Either that or go the opposite route and try dealing with someone like Mequiars and becoming a rep for them promoting and demonstrating their products while doing detailing.

All that said. I'm generally a DIY guy with my old car. I would take my modern daily to a detailer to save time and take advantage od thier gear and experience in things like gettings stains out of carpet. But as long as I am able, I'll be the only one detailing my classuc.
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#2388876 - 10/17/17 04:13 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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Wife's cousin is a auto detailer who started commercially in 2000, it was just him.

It's now grown to him +15-16 employees and many of his employees make 60 grand+.

A full executive detail is $299, they do incredible work though most are late models. He has contracts with rental car companies and large dealerships.

There is money to be made out there.

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#2388880 - 10/17/17 04:18 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: SeaninSD]
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There are detail shops that specialize in premium brands ($200,000 and up cars). The really good detailers will take 3-5 days to do one car and get paid well over $2,000 for their work.

When finished, the car will be clean and polished beyond description.

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#2388882 - 10/17/17 04:26 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: feets]
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Originally Posted By feets
There are detail shops that specialize in premium brands ($200,000 and up cars). The really good detailers will take 3-5 days to do one car and get paid well over $1,000 for their work.


Knowing what it takes to PROPERLY detail a car, that really seems like a pittance...especially knowing that, when you are dealing with really high-dollar stuff, machine polishing is verboten.
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#2388898 - 10/17/17 05:07 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: mopars4ever]
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Originally Posted By mopars4ever
I don`t have any experience in that type of business so I`m just speaking my thoughts. I would think that most people that have a classic car would detail the car themselves. It may do well depending on the area you will do business. I doubt around my area it would do very well. If I would pay someone to do it I would think $100+ for a full detail is fair.

I spent 80plus hours detailing my car. And there are a few thing that still need done.
My point is even a normal classic car guy, would expect way more than the average joe will.
I would also think most would have a problem, trusting someone to do it.


Edited by 340SIX (10/17/17 05:13 PM)
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#2388899 - 10/17/17 05:08 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: Orange_Crush]
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You caught me before the correction. up


I remember hearing numbers of $2500 and up but I don't recall where his prices started.

Many of the cars are delivered to him and picked up in enclosed trailers.

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#2388903 - 10/17/17 05:17 PM Re: Advice on business idea [Re: feets]
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Originally Posted By feets
You caught me before the correction. up


I remember hearing numbers of $2500 and up but I don't recall where his prices started.

Many of the cars are delivered to him and picked up in enclosed trailers.

When doing National shows. I saw whole crews work a day, or even 2 and roll the car into a display with tire condoms on.
Then after do a quick 2 hours before picking it up into trailer
Thus my comment above. One man would take weeks at top levels of detail
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