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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
[Re: 79machocharger]
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I'm with 6bblgt, incorrect lug nuts not threaded deep enough.
Don't drive the truck, your wheels are loose. Examination of the lug holes in the wheels is needed.
Open ended lugs, trimmed studs are options for fixing.
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
[Re: 79machocharger]
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10/16/17 07:53 AM
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Just realized what I did wrong, got looking on eBay and it looks likes 2016 ram takes 14 1.5 lug nuts. Man I hope I just didn't ruin all my threads
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
[Re: 79machocharger]
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10/16/17 09:49 AM
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Just realized what I did wrong, got looking on eBay and it looks likes 2016 ram takes 14 1.5 lug nuts. Man I hope I just didn't ruin all my threads
That would do it. All the newer Mopars have Metric thread wheel studs.
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
[Re: moparx]
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10/16/17 07:11 PM
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Thanks for info guys, the lugs nuts were inclosed long gorilla brand ones. I'll go and get some open ended ones and trim off the bad part like you said i can't recommend this, as then your studs may be too short to use with your new wheels. i would replace all the studs. if you look close, your pic shows thread damage below the really buggered up portion [the shiny three or so threads]. these threads are deformed, and i wouldn't trust 'em. i know that may not be what you would want to hear, but 20 studs would be WAY cheaper than a crashed truck. just my opinion, and repairing threads in many things over 50+ years.  Yes I agree, all 20 studs need to be replaced. At least it was not 24 or more lugs. So sorry and not trying to be negative but once you force the wrong sizes together it destroys both fasteners. So sorry it happened. Please replace those studs and get new lug nuts and and chock it up as a learning experience.
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
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10/16/17 07:38 PM
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
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10/16/17 09:07 PM
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I really hate to break with the pack but I wouldn't go out and start replacing the studs just yet. When I look at the pictures I see 75% of the stud untouched. I'd get a metric die and clean the threads up. Not a thread chaser, a die. Then I'd do some careful measurements to see how much of the studs would be engaged by the nuts. If the nuts engage at least two thirds of the stud, I'd just drive it. Now if you have driven the truck with the incorrect nuts, then I'm with the pack. I'm sure the studs have been flexed and that's never good.
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
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10/17/17 12:51 AM
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Have to agree with not replacing the studs but disagree with 6pacBee on the use of a threading die. I would use a thread chaser. A thread chaser will straighten the damaged threads, a die will cut new threads where they are damaged reducing the strength in the damaged area. Just get the proper lug nuts after you fix the threads.
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
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10/17/17 01:00 AM
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I really hate to break with the pack but I wouldn't go out and start replacing the studs just yet. When I look at the pictures I see 75% of the stud untouched. I'd get a metric die and clean the threads up. Not a thread chaser, a die. Then I'd do some careful measurements to see how much of the studs would be engaged by the nuts. If the nuts engage at least two thirds of the stud, I'd just drive it. Now if you have driven the truck with the incorrect nuts, then I'm with the pack. I'm sure the studs have been flexed and that's never good. Sorry this is wrong. I see at least 1/2 of the threads on the front 3 studs are messed up. The studs are cheap, replace all of them, and all of the lugs on each wheel you tried to force the incorrect lug nuts onto. Gene
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
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10/17/17 05:06 AM
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I really hate to break with the pack but I wouldn't go out and start replacing the studs just yet. When I look at the pictures I see 75% of the stud untouched. I'd get a metric die and clean the threads up. Not a thread chaser, a die. Then I'd do some careful measurements to see how much of the studs would be engaged by the nuts. If the nuts engage at least two thirds of the stud, I'd just drive it. Now if you have driven the truck with the incorrect nuts, then I'm with the pack. I'm sure the studs have been flexed and that's never good. Sorry this is wrong. I see at least 1/2 of the threads on the front 3 studs are messed up. The studs are cheap, replace all of them, and all of the lugs on each wheel you tried to force the incorrect lug nuts onto. Gene This is what I see from the picture. On the closest stud there are about four threads that are destroyed. Then there are about 6 threads that look to have some damage. The remainder (14-16) look pristine. How many threads do you need to achieve rated tensile loading on the stud? I would guess a little over half an inch. I did compare a 9/16 NF thread to a 14 1.5 metric. 0.5625 major diameter and 18 TPI versus 0.5512 major diameter and 17 TPI (based on 1.5 mm/thread). I can see how the two worked, kind of. This is just my opinion.
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Re: What will cause a wheel stud to do this?
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10/17/17 10:59 AM
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Looks like I'll need to take axles out to replace the back studs.
I'll change them out to be safe. I really wish they would put the size on the factory lug nuts. I did notice last night that there was a M on the end of the nut. I would replace them also, if for no other reason, peace of mind. I'm not sure pulling the axle is necessary though. Most vehicles have a hole or slot somewhere on the backside that'll allow room to push out/pull in the studs. Having said that, I've never pulled an axle on one of those...maybe it's the easiest route.
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closed end lug nuts not tapped deep enough?
