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#2382212 - 10/04/17 11:08 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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#2382346 - 10/05/17 09:39 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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Originally Posted By Orange_Crush
Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
Originally Posted By Neil

From that era I also recall TRON and DUNE and the first ALIEN movie, which is still a favorite of mine.
Im going to watch it and those 3 movies you mentioned are great classics.


I'll agree with "Alien" and I'll even say "Ok...I can see that" to "Tron."

But "Dune???" Oh man that was two hours and seventeen minutes of David Lynch saying "Hey...I did the best I could...you shoulda stuck with Jodorowsky."

I was so excited to watch "Dune" back in '84...but when I walked into the theater and they handed me a glossary sheet, I knew it was gonna be awful!


I agree, Dune was a dud, almost comical, loved the book and should have left it at that one. Even with Star Wars, the book was better. Like you say, Tron was ok, visually cool. Aliens, the no contest scariest movie ever made. You looked over your shoulder for weeks after that.

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#2382387 - 10/05/17 11:19 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: cudaman1969]
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By Orange_Crush
Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
Originally Posted By Neil

From that era I also recall TRON and DUNE and the first ALIEN movie, which is still a favorite of mine.
Im going to watch it and those 3 movies you mentioned are great classics.


I'll agree with "Alien" and I'll even say "Ok...I can see that" to "Tron."

But "Dune???" Oh man that was two hours and seventeen minutes of David Lynch saying "Hey...I did the best I could...you shoulda stuck with Jodorowsky."

I was so excited to watch "Dune" back in '84...but when I walked into the theater and they handed me a glossary sheet, I knew it was gonna be awful!


I agree, Dune was a dud, almost comical, loved the book and should have left it at that one. Even with Star Wars, the book was better. Like you say, Tron was ok, visually cool. Aliens, the no contest scariest movie ever made. You looked over your shoulder for weeks after that.
Dune was pretty good and you do know that Star Wars the movies came out before the books and they were horrible mostly because it wasn't written by Lucas. Sounds like you're the type of guy that would enjoy reading Twilight also

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#2382442 - 10/05/17 12:51 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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Been awhile but I remember reading the Star Wars book long before the movie came out, seeing the little differences there where while watching. I remember there was a difference with the star fighters bflying with Luke. I enjoyed reading all sci-fi books back in the day. I had read everyone in the high school library and still have about 3-400 paperbacks and quite a few hardbacks (sister was in a 5 books of the month club). When I started reading one It never got put down till finished.


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#2382560 - 10/05/17 03:50 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: cudaman1969]
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Been awhile but I remember reading the Star Wars book long before the movie came out, seeing the little differences there where while watching. I remember there was a difference with the star fighters bflying with Luke. I enjoyed reading all sci-fi books back in the day. I had read everyone in the high school library and still have about 3-400 paperbacks and quite a few hardbacks (sister was in a 5 books of the month club). When I started reading one It never got put down till finished.


The first Star Wars book was released a year before the movie and Lucas was credited as the author. FYI as I read it before seeing the movie as well...

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#2382614 - 10/05/17 05:51 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: DarrenS]
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Originally Posted By DarrenS
Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Been awhile but I remember reading the Star Wars book long before the movie came out, seeing the little differences there where while watching. I remember there was a difference with the star fighters bflying with Luke. I enjoyed reading all sci-fi books back in the day. I had read everyone in the high school library and still have about 3-400 paperbacks and quite a few hardbacks (sister was in a 5 books of the month club). When I started reading one It never got put down till finished.


The first Star Wars book was released a year before the movie and Lucas was credited as the author. FYI as I read it before seeing the movie as well...
Yeah I apologize. I asked my older brother who is a big Star Wars fan and he said the book came out about 6 months before the movie. He said I probably was hinking about one of the first expanded universe books but he did say he thought the movie was better. They had Vader flat out beating Obi Won in the books and in the movie he let Vader beat him which was a better outcome I thought. He did say the books were still good though.

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#2382825 - 10/06/17 12:30 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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Ok, I saw it. I'll hold my opinions for a bit to let people see the movie without a bias. I will say that it is very long, 2 hours and 43 minutes.
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#2382885 - 10/06/17 09:11 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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2:43... wow, that's a long evening! I'm usually saturated at the end of an average 1:30 format, so I ponder whether viewer fatigue might literally be an issue.. .. but I still won't miss seeing it for the world.

Blade Runner touches on so many aspects of the human condition.. an amazingly rich story and movie. I hope this version is equally re-watchable as I've enjoyed Blade Runner every time I've watched it..

One of the chief set designers graduated from the same Architecture School and I did. He came back to our school and gave a super-awesome lecture on the urban and cultural ideas that drove the costume, sets and building designs. Talked about the various European graphic artists of the late 60's and 70's that inspired a lot of the visual 'landscape' , etc. Valerian & Laureline, Moebius, etc.

...I hope the movie is as thrilling as this anticipation. No pressure. LOL
- Art


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#2382934 - 10/06/17 11:12 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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The 1927 German silent film Metropolis by Fritz Lang was also a big influence on the look and some of the themes in Blade Runner.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2009/nov/05/architecture-film-riba


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#2382962 - 10/06/17 12:10 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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My Blade Runner 2049 review:
* Spoiler Alert! *

Don't keep reading if you're planning on seeing the film.

Still here?, ok here goes....

First all, the movie is full of visually stunning scenes, lots of them, and more after that, and sometimes they went on and on and on to the point of tedium. Have mentioned that it is a very long movie?

The soundtrack was disjointed and unnecessarily loud at times. Clearly they were leveraging the brilliance of the original Blade Runner Vangelis score but this attempt was often annoying.

The premise/plot question of "who's a replicant and who's not" was overdone. About halfway through the movie I began to wonder if any of the characters were human. About two-thirds of the way through I no longer cared.

No attempt was made to properly explain the superfluous Jared Leto 'Niander Wallace' character. He bore a striking resemblance to the 'Satan' character that Viggo Mortensen played in "The Prophecy" (one of my favorite movies ever), to the point of being a ripoff.

Ok, now my main beef; the movie just 'ended'. Like they just ran out of material, we're running way over in time, and didn't want to wrap things up too much. I guess that they wanted to set up another follow-on movie but it just pissed me off.

The movie had a fair amount of nudity. Normally that is a good thing right? It seemed to be placed a regular intervals seemingly as to keep the male audience from falling asleep.

Not all was disappointing, the holigraphic 'Joi' character was one of the most enjoyable in the movie. The female villain 'Luv' was hot...did either really die?...I guess that we'll find out in the next movie.

I know that this is a pessimistic review but it is how that I feel now. Maybe after time my opinion of the movie may change.
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#2382971 - 10/06/17 12:33 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: 67Satty]
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Originally Posted By 67Satty
The 1927 German silent film Metropolis by Fritz Lang was also a big influence on the look and some of the themes in Blade Runner.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2009/nov/05/architecture-film-riba

Very cool movie, can you imagine if it was a talkie, but then again, voice might have taken away its mystique.

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#2383082 - 10/06/17 05:06 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: 56_Royal_Lancer]
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Originally Posted By 56_Royal_Lancer
The original was exceptional, I plan on reading the reviews of the new flick and if it sounds like they have a clue I'll be going to see it.
The original, while long on atmosphere, and not without some good moments, had some plot issues that were just awful. Like when Deckard and Captain Bryant are reviewing the 4 replicants who came back, and Bryant has to explain about their 4 year life span. I understand it fills in the audience on that fact, but a guy who hunts replicants for a living should know these details. Or how a replicant could go back to work for the company that built him as a janitor (Brion James' character...) and not be detected except by the police. And then this whole sub-plot, presumably when Rachel asks him if he's ever taken the Voight-Kampff test himself (or maybe rumor started by the fans (?) ) about Deckard himself being a replicant.... with the beating the 4 replicants put on him throughout the film he seemed pretty weak/human by comparison.

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#2383145 - 10/06/17 07:50 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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Originally Posted By Orange_Crush
Anyone else going to watch it?

Yes Sir, I will.
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#2383370 - 10/07/17 10:43 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Sixpak]
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Originally Posted By Sixpak
Originally Posted By 56_Royal_Lancer
The original was exceptional, I plan on reading the reviews of the new flick and if it sounds like they have a clue I'll be going to see it.
The original, while long on atmosphere, and not without some good moments, had some plot issues that were just awful.


I agree, the original had its share of long drawn out parts and was certainly boring to me the first time I saw it... Only after watching it a few times did I feel it was a classic....

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#2384422 - 10/09/17 11:18 AM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: floridian]
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Good lord this movies blowed!

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#2384474 - 10/09/17 01:01 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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The first rule of show business is leave the audience wanting more, not less. This could have been way shorter. Also, characters, set design, story were not as interesting as the original. The only thing I can say for this one is there are parts that are even more of a mind-bender than the first but they just couldn't sustain interest. I thought the director's other sci-fi movie Arrival was pretty boring and pretentious too and it seemed like the people who were impressed by it had never seen Slaughterhouse 5 or read the book, otherwise they would have noticed the obvious poorly-done ripoff aspects.


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#2384630 - 10/09/17 05:02 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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#2393155 - 10/25/17 09:54 PM Re: Who's Gonna Watch Blade Runner 2049? [Re: Orange_Crush]
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I love the original, so I enjoyed this one too, seeing it on the big screen was worth it to me.

I was able to follow the plot twists exploring "who may or may not be a Replicant". That tends to be my favorite theme of the whole story and they did OK with it.

Ryan Gosling did great as K.
Loved the digital 'wife' character of Joi.
Wallace was an interesting freakish-savant.
Luv and Lt.Joshi were really solid foils to Officer K.

Disliked some of the new 'set locations' they used - the Orphanage and the Farmstead were out of character and lacking sophistication I thought.
Some behavior was not believable, like the assassination of Lt.Joshi in her office.
The ending was alright. K dies, that parallels the original and concluded some of the plot line. Deckard and his daughter remain (why she isn't assassinated doesn't make sense), but obviously sets up a sequel, just like the original.

I'll see it again on DVD.
- Art



Edited by 67SATisfaction (10/25/17 10:03 PM)
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