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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2382289
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Engine is done for this year. Found my puffing issue when I had the heads off checking for water sealing issues. Flycuts for the piston reliefs were cut too deep. Found a hole in #8 piston. I can only assume the rest of the pistons are ready to pop in the same spots. New pistons are not in the budget at this time so the engine will go back under wraps. Plenty of work left to do on the car itself, with plenty of parts floating around.

Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2382316
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Did you have them flycut yourself?


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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2382546
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I had them done with the rest of the engine work. All of the engine work was done at the same time. Check heads, block work up, clearance for stroker, replace cam bearings, line hone for new caps, clearance for valves, balance bottom end. They had all engine parts for mock up.


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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2423069
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OK. So this year. I got the 500 fired up, after many setbacks. Found some issues, but got tired of it. After brainstorming with a close friend, it was decided that as long as I own this motor, it would be possessed by the spirit of Chuckie. So, I sold the motor, and am now embarking on bigger and better. Looking at what kind of B1 heads to buy. Really have my eyes on a set of B1MC's. but still checking to see if they are really MC's. Also have a set of PSO's in sight, but have a lot of port and epoxy work, which has never really thrilled me as far as long term use. Aiming at putting together a 572, maybe bigger, not sure yet. Taking a break, cleaning up the garage, enjoying the holidays. Will start fresh with the New Year and maybe get this old girl to the track. Long overdue.

Merry Christmas everyone. Santa3

Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2423260
12/24/17 08:25 PM
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Kenny that is a bad deal on the pistons. I'm glad you are moving on to bigger and more bada$$ pastures.

On the pistons being fly-cut - Was this to solve a PtV clearance issue? If so, can we re-hash what the rod/stroke combo was along with the cam specs? I'm getting into a similar scenario and was wondering if losing some quench/squishy was beneficial in lieu of cutting on the pistons (or changing to a dished piston).

My 511 low deck was really close on the PtV (.080 Ex, .100 In) and luckily only .020 had to be removed from the valve face. That was with a cam that checks out at less than .750 at the spring retainer.

Merry CHristmas to you too buddy!

Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: Jeremiah] #2423291
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Originally Posted By Jeremiah
Kenny that is a bad deal on the pistons. I'm glad you are moving on to bigger and more bada$$ pastures.

On the pistons being fly-cut - Was this to solve a PtV clearance issue? If so, can we re-hash what the rod/stroke combo was along with the cam specs? I'm getting into a similar scenario and was wondering if losing some quench/squishy was beneficial in lieu of cutting on the pistons (or changing to a dished piston).

My 511 low deck was really close on the PtV (.080 Ex, .100 In) and luckily only .020 had to be removed from the valve face. That was with a cam that checks out at less than .750 at the spring retainer.

Merry CHristmas to you too buddy!


With the "QUALITY" work done to my engine, I'm thinking that nobody checked for sure and plunge cut the pistons, just to be on the safe side. When I saw pics of original pistons on 440source site, they took a ton of material out of the valve relief pockets on the intake side of my pistons. I'm sure they would have been safe with half the cut they took, that is, if they needed to be cut at all. .100" clearance on the intake is plenty safe IMO. My combo was a 4.15" crank, 6.76" rod, 4.380" flat top piston, -0.005" deck height. I was using -1 heads, heavy milled to 60cc chambers, .040" copper head gaskets. .765"/.714" cam lift with 1.7 rockers, 269/276 @ .050" duration.

And a Merry Christmas to you.

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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2423340
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What would you be good with for minimum PtV on a steel rod engine?

Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2423366
12/25/17 12:36 AM
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I've heard .060" but I think I feel good with .080".


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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2423381
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Solid roller cam with decent spring pressures, 250+ lbs. on the seat and 600 + Lbs. opened on a mild lobe, I shoot for .060 at the closest on the intakes and .080 on the exhaust up
I've ran them with more than that clearances with no visible closeness on the piston top carbon at or under 7500 RPM, less than .050 I see near witness marks on the carbon work
This is on a automatic car, not a stick shift motor work whistling

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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2430157
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Ok. New build time. Intake on its way. Crank and rods in the works. Heads going for inspection and touch up. Engine block is hurt. Will be looking for ideas on repairs in the near future.



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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2430251
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Cool, maybe this time around you will get a good motor built and meet some goals.............. beer thumbs


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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2430500
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Originally Posted By sgcuda
Well, it didn't start out in the piston. Must have been sitting on the crank scarper and windage tray areas. Got pulled up through the cam area when I pulled the crank around. Not sure if I want to reuse the oil pan. Rust from chipmunk urine, I guess. Internals look good so far.

2 squirrels climb into a wedge block for a beer...



Just read your post and hate to see this set back. (Should put a squirrel powered decal on scoop). But how did the squirrel get in the oil pan? Was the timing cover off or something else left off for a while? That looks like it has been there for a while with the rust on the pan.
Hope you get it going soon.


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Originally Posted By SCATPACK 1

2 squirrels climb into a wedge block for a beer...


Just read your post and hate to see this set back. (Should put a squirrel powered decal on scoop). But how did the squirrel get in the oil pan? Was the timing cover off or something else left off for a while? That looks like it has been there for a while with the rust on the pan.
Hope you get it going soon. [/quote]

I had the intake off, and 2 cloth type fender covers over the valley. They ate through them and used the material for a nest. Since there weren't any lifters in it yet, I guess they did their thing and shimmied down around the camshaft and into the bottom end. My Milodon pan has a solid windage tray on it which became their bedroom floor. I pulled enough stuffing out to fill a bed pillow. A lot was behind #4 piston, rest in the pan.

The first one chugs a beer and says....

Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2433119
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More toys!

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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2433129
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Damn nice Kenny and someones fixin to haul azz here soon.......... beer


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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2451924
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Thumper starting on assembling parts for the new carbs.




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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2452147
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She's gonna FLY................... boogie drive penguin


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Re: OK! No more BS. Time to start working. [Re: sgcuda] #2457469
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While Dominic is assembling my new fuel atomization units, I'm making a little progress. I got Jeff's bumper brackets aligned real nice on the rear. I found a scrap late model Charger air dam that I thought would work out on the front. What do you guys think? I am still thinking on just using a pair of AAR chin spoilers, but I need something to give me a little down force on the top end.

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I like that spoiler a lot............


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