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#2378541 - 09/28/17 09:18 PM Off road/Truck tires
Pacnorthcuda Offline
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Registered: 11/19/07
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Loc: Kirkland, Washington
I recently retired and moved out in "the country". I am doing a LOT more off roading. Some of it on some pretty rough roads as far as tires go. Sharp rocks.
I am learning some things I never knew, or at least never had to concern myself with.

1997 Toyota 4Runner (winter, off road beater). BFG "Long Trail T/A".
I have had three flat tires in the last two months.

Turns out these 'soft balloons' (my term) are 4 ply tires which are fine on the highway, and snow on asphalt, but little else.

I need to better match my rig to its usage.

I am learning about load ratings and 6 ply, 10 ply (which apparently doesn't really mean the ply count, just an equivalent to the construction back in the days when it did.

I don't want sharp rocks piercing my tires.

Advice, experience?

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#2378577 - 09/28/17 09:58 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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Registered: 12/10/07
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Loc: Mass
Here's what I run on the Dodge Power Wagon as the truck sees street, off road/dirt/mud pits, rock climbing, basic off road mayhem, 10 ply Thornbirds, great year round, even snow, great off road, dirt or mud, heavy construction long wearing go anywhere, do anything tire, these are 38X12.5X17 weigh in at about 70 lbs each just for the tire, I got these thru Summit, they're made by the same company making M&H Racemasters...made in the USA, not overseas

If you get into TSL type tires they are difficult to balance, I use the large diameter ceramic off road DYNABEADS to balance them, very effective!

Here's my little "tire gauge" inspecting...


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#2378579 - 09/28/17 10:04 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
Bad340fish Offline
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Thats probably the first positive review I have read about thornbirds haha, they look cool!

I think anything BFG makes has a less than desirable sidewall. I had tons of trouble with the 33x12.50 BFG mud terrains when I had them on my Xj Cherokee. The tire shop made the mistake of selling me a warranty and boy did they regret it lol. When I moved to a 35x12.50 I got some of the GoodYear Kevlar MTRs and they have been great with zero sidewall cuts. They are 7 years old now and getting pretty hard so it is almost time to replace them frown.
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#2378582 - 09/28/17 10:10 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
GoodysGotaCuda Offline
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Registered: 11/23/04
Posts: 23913
Loc: Texas
Toyo M/Ts or Nitto Trail Grapplers. Very, very good tires in both performance and durability.


Just look at the weight of the Toyo vs something like a KM2, it tells you what you need to know.

I ran 37" Trail Grapplers @ 4psi when off-road on my [then] daily driver. With that low of tire pressure, ram-assist steering, lockers and a 4:1 transfer case...I was very hard on tires. I wouldn't bother with anything but a tire from Toyo or Nitto if you are getting serious at all. I ran 35" KM2s and was not impressed with them at all, they are also "short" and are not true to size.


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#2378586 - 09/28/17 10:15 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
GoodysGotaCuda Offline
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My tires during the same trip, no issues.


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#2378591 - 09/28/17 10:25 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
Pacnorthcuda Offline
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Registered: 11/19/07
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Loc: Kirkland, Washington
Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
My tires during the same trip, no issues.


Wow, that's an incredible shot Goody! More than I subject my stuff to.

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#2378670 - 09/29/17 04:23 AM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
sthemi Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
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Loc: Chicago Burbs
Recommend an E load BFG KO2 all terrain tire.

Reviews are excellent. I just put some on my 01 Ram.

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#2378736 - 09/29/17 09:40 AM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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Registered: 02/26/03
Posts: 20251
Loc: Manitoba, Canada
I've been running the BFG All Terrains for years and I like them. My jeep saw a lot of off-roading, lots of time in the gravel pits and they still drive well on the street. Never put them through the sharp rocks like in goody's pic though.

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#2378748 - 09/29/17 09:54 AM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
340Cuda Offline
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Registered: 04/04/03
Posts: 1572
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
My tires during the same trip, no issues.


Wow, that's an incredible shot Goody! More than I subject my stuff to.


Wow, that looks like a tire destruction tool!

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#2378766 - 09/29/17 10:20 AM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
scratchnfotraction Offline
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Registered: 05/29/03
Posts: 14972
Loc: Florida
well here in the swamps it used to be the gateway gumbo monster mudders in the 14/35/15 to the 18/44/15 then the ground hawgs 14/35 or 17/40 or 18/44

now days I run the 34x9.50x15 TSL super swamper on my yota 4x4

one thing to remember in the mud is 35s don't go where 44s have been.

I have to say the thornbird is a good narly looking tire and has a long wear life on pavement. good Baja tire with tuff sidewalls.

but the ones I ran on the jeep were 33x13.50x15 on 12 rims. little to short to get off in the deep but were awesome in the sand drags.

IMHO, tall skinny tires work just as good as tall wide tires with less bearing failures from wide rim leverage.

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#2378769 - 09/29/17 10:23 AM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: scratchnfotraction]
scratchnfotraction Offline
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Registered: 05/29/03
Posts: 14972
Loc: Florida
yes, Goodys is extreme off roading! good sidewall and low air pressures = traction!

cyprees knees do the same thing to tires in the swamps, you just don't see the underwater action when it does.

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#2378871 - 09/29/17 12:51 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
WO23Coronet Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 3789
Loc: Canada
Goodyear Duratracs are extremely popular around here. I'm getting a set this winter for my winter tires. From the guys I talked to they are fairly quiet, wear well and very tough

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#2378944 - 09/29/17 03:01 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 4607
Loc: enfield, CT
my offroad tire of choice is interco TRXUS STS. have had great luck with them in all weather conditions and offroad on several dedicated offroad vehicles
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#2382137 - 10/04/17 09:20 PM Re: Off road/Truck tires [Re: ViperDave]
440_Offroader Offline
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Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 56
Loc: Alberta
I recently was looking for a dual purpose tire. There are so many tires out there, it's a little crazy. My results were the same as Goodys. Toyo M/Ts or the Nitro Trail Grapplers.
I had the Toyo M/Ts on a work truck a few years ago. They still performed well, even with them worn to the wear bars. I have some Duratracs on a truck right now, but it's mostly street driven. The Duratracs do work excellent in the snow. Never a flat on either tires.
Definitely go for a heavier tire. Might bring fuel mileage down a little, but a thicker carcass will be more resistant to tire cutting obstacles.
Lots of choices, good luck with whatever you choose.

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