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Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: 6bblgt] #2377878
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Plymouth E-body "announcement promos"

BH27L1B100001 - BH27L1B10000? * GB5 Barracuda convertible CANADA
BH23G1B100010 - BH23G1B100011 * FC7 Barracuda hardtop CANADA

anyone know any Gran Coupes or 'cudas for CANADA?

BS23V1B100100 - BS23V1B100120 * GY3 'cuda hardtop US

anyone know any Barracudas or Gran Coupes for US?

Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: 6bblgt] #2378200
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
'71 "pilot" & "promo" cars on Moparts

what I think I know realcrazy

1971 model year HAMTRAMCK "CAR" fender tags are for PRE-PRODUCTION / "pilot" cars - built during spring/summer 1970 well before '71 production started around August 3, 1970 (they have 801-SPDs)

their VINs were assigned after the "promo" cars had their VINs assigned and appear to be quite "random" unlike prior years

1971 model year HAMTRAMCK "DEALER ANNOUNCEMENT MEETING" show / "promo" cars were built in multiples of nearly identical cars (some believe 21 units based on the number of dealer shows across the US with an additional 7-9 CANADA spec. units built for shows in Canada) most of these have 802-SPDs (again the UAW wasn't working Saturday/Sunday) but the cars were built during the month of August in preparation of shows scheduled for late-August/early-September before the cars went on official sale.

1971 NEW CARS DEBUT 10/6/70 (Dart & Valiant DEBUT 9/15/70)



Good info - thanks Dan.

FJ5_Fish in that older thread is me. I have been on here since Tom started the board...but I always forgot my user name and password...so I always had to come back with a new handle - Lol.

So - it is possible that there may have been up to 30 of these made including Canada?

Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: Maxwellwedge] #2378328
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no, the Canada "promos" were built to different specs.
- the '71 'cudas for Canada appear to have been 383HP hardtops

WAG - CANADA "announcement units" Plymouth e-body (multiples of 8)
1B100001 - 1B100008 Barracuda convertible (BH27L)
1B100009 - 1B100016 Barracuda hardtop (BH23G)
1B100017 - 1B100024 'cuda hardtop (BS23N)
1B100025 - 1B100032 Gran Coupe hardtop (BP23N)

Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: Maxwellwedge] #2378548
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Who were these demo dealers?

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The cars could have been sent to the regional offices then to a dealer?

Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: 6bblgt] #2378842
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
Plymouth E-body "announcement promos"

BH27L1B100001 - BH27L1B10000? * GB5 Barracuda convertible CANADA
BH23G1B100010 - BH23G1B100011 * FC7 Barracuda hardtop CANADA




BH27L1B100005 was the infamous fraud car that emerged as a BS27N 'Cuda after restoration 10+ years ago.


1970 Dodge Challenger T/A

Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: Maxwellwedge] #2379117
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6bblgt, what about 1B100237 serial number on another Hemi block. I think I could have other serial numbers that have CAR in the serial number but can not retrieve that information because my PC is not near me right now. I have seen a lot of those early Canadian Plymouths, what about the Dodge promos in 1971.


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There were many changes from 1970 to 1971 when it comes to E Bodies. There must be an avenue for Chrysler to test the changes both with the car and with the assembly plant. These changes have to be set up in plant and the mix of the line workers job might have to be changed or work moved around from one worker to another. Looking at just the Hemi build. The Hemi Carbs used Manual Choke. Exhaust manifold were different on a Hemi with less parts lot of routing changes of the fuel system front to back. This is just a few things that are different and would effect all engine sizes. The Cars basically look similar from 1970 to 1971 but they are very different build and it kept changing over the year. Why would a Challenger in 1971 have three different front bumpers and two different back bumpers. Change continued over the year with the implication of Body panel changes. You have to test or maybe the change would not work.


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Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: hemicar1971] #2382280
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Originally Posted By hemicar1971
6bblgt, what about 1B100237 serial number on another Hemi block. I think I could have other serial numbers that have CAR in the serial number but can not retrieve that information because my PC is not near me right now. I have seen a lot of those early Canadian Plymouths, what about the Dodge promos in 1971.


I have both 1B100236 & 1B100237 recorded, but no pics of either & wasn't sure if one or both were correctly "reported" from memory

CANADA spec. Dodge e-body "PROMOs" appear to be VINs around:
JH23H1B100139
JH27N1B100149
JS23N1B100156

USA spec. Dodge e-body "PROMOs" appear to be VINs around:
JH23H1B100232
JH27N1B100374

Re: 71 'Cuda Curious Yellow 440-6 Show Cars [Re: Maxwellwedge] #2601426
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I am obviously very late to this thread but just ran across it. I own VIN 100110 and am interested to know what your research turned up about the number that still exist. mine is auto, no noise reduction package.

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Here's a picture that Dan had with your car in it.

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Originally Posted By sm17
I am obviously very late to this thread but just ran across it. I own VIN 100110 and am interested to know what your research turned up about the number that still exist. mine is auto, no noise reduction package.


What does the car look like today? Still as raced, or is it being restored?


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i couldn't figure out how to upload the pics but if you google the VIN BS23V1B100110 you'll can find relatively current images. All back to stock.

thanks much for the lead on the race history. i had some idea about that but had not seen photos

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Why isn't the important Shaker hood, N96 showing up on the fender tag ? There is a promo car like this in N.E Ohio and currently on display at Summit Racing equipment.

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for what it's worth, my second tag includes the shaker and reads:

R11 V6X EN2
M88 N41 N42 N85 N96
BS23 V1B 100110

Apologies for not just posting the photo; I will figure out how to do it

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All this talk prompted me to research the history of my car a bit more deeply; turns out one previous owner was somewhat infamous. The car is even featured briefly in this CNBC piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-ppYHarII

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Originally Posted By sm17
All this talk prompted me to research the history of my car a bit more deeply; turns out one previous owner was somewhat infamous. The car is even featured briefly in this CNBC piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-ppYHarII



Wasn’t another promo car owned by a Moparts member in Las Vegas that was murdered? I don’t think anyone was charged?

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Originally Posted By sm17
All this talk prompted me to research the history of my car a bit more deeply; turns out one previous owner was somewhat infamous. The car is even featured briefly in this CNBC piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-ppYHarII




Fox use to show up at the annual Bay Area mopar show. Every year he had something new. He bought several cars from Greg Nelson at Ponderosa Mopars. One year he showed up with two freshly restored cars, a 1970 440+6 GTX and a 1970 440+6 Coronet R/T. Both factory black.

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Originally Posted By 76orangewagon
Why isn't the important Shaker hood, N96 showing up on the fender tag ? There is a promo car like this in N.E Ohio and currently on display at Summit Racing equipment.


They were not all optioned exactly the same.

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Originally Posted By autoxcuda

Wasn’t another promo car owned by a Moparts member in Las Vegas that was murdered? I don’t think anyone was charged?


DJ "prowler" owned 1B100103 - the picture above is in his driveway

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