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#2373589 - 09/19/17 08:11 PM Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling?
71sat440 Offline


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Its a 24x24 I'm getting a drywall jack off of Amazon (haven't decided yet) I'm banking on spending around $130-$150 for the jack then selling on craigslist a week later for $80-$100 used.

Any tips appreciated no matter how small, like is there a preferred pattern in putting them up?

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#2373603 - 09/19/17 08:25 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
gtxmark Offline
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Your local tool rental has drywall lifts you can rent and just return....
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#2373605 - 09/19/17 08:26 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Never used a drywall jack on ceiling drywall

I do something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0UHi62look
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#2373642 - 09/19/17 09:25 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: Supercuda]
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
Never used a drywall jack on ceiling drywall

I do something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0UHi62look

Watching this guy strain the jack is much easier
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#2373647 - 09/19/17 09:32 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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We used OSB on the inside of my garage. Because of the amount of sheets we had to put up, I opted to buy a drywall lift on sale from Harbor Freight instead of renting a lift. That way we could take our time. I sold it on Craigslist for a few bucks less one week later. First call bought it.

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#2373649 - 09/19/17 09:36 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Pay someone to insulate it if not already done. I found it cheaper to pay that to buy the insulation I would need. Also run any electrical you may need now, or in the future. Stub in a junction box set flush.
Pattern is to start with a full sheet, second run start with a half sheet.
Also around the edges if you are not supporting the rock with rocked walls, install backing to screw to to avoid sagging down the road.
Many people use 5/8 in a garage/shop for 1 hr fire rating.

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#2373650 - 09/19/17 09:39 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Hire some local Mexicans to do it, way cheaper in the long run.
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#2373654 - 09/19/17 09:43 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
RoadRunnerJD Offline
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My wife and I did our 26'x26' garage with 12' sheets. They are just too heavy.I rented a drywall jack. Don't forget to offset the joints. You don't want to line up joints on drywall. Don't sink the screws in too deep. You just want a dimple. Spread the mud on thin with a wide trowel...you want to minimize the sanding by only having to feather the edges. Good luck!


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#2373662 - 09/19/17 09:50 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: astjp2]
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Originally Posted By astjp2
Hire some local Mexicans to do it, way cheaper in the long run.


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#2373675 - 09/19/17 10:14 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
Stanton Offline
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My ceiling is 10' high ... a drywall jack was the way to go. They now have light weight "ceiling" drywall. The advantage being that it won't sag between the joists - not to mention a lot easier to handle. Use the longest sheets you can to minimize joints. I also like a proper drywall screw gun. Mudding takes three coats.

OSB ... yikes !! There's ZERO fire protection in that stuff !!

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#2373710 - 09/19/17 11:10 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
finn Offline
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Use the drywall jack, but use white pole barn steel or garage liner material instead of Sheetrock.

Goes up fast, reflects light well, and once it's screwed in place, there is no more finishing to do.

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#2373721 - 09/19/17 11:30 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: finn]
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Originally Posted By finn
Use the drywall jack, but use white pole barn steel or garage liner material instead of Sheetrock.

Goes up fast, reflects light well, and once it's screwed in place, there is no more finishing to do.


This......

Unless you keep it heated to a constant temperature in the winter, the seams will crack.

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#2373770 - 09/20/17 02:05 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
srt Offline


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At 24' there should not be the need for expansion joints provided the rock is held back 1/8" to 1/4" on the perimeter and at most 1/8" between sheets (sides and ends). We used to say to use a sheetrock nail to gauge gaps.
iirc the expansion of sheetrock is 1/2"/100'/50*f
I'll be installing 1 e.j. at 20' on a 24x40 shop to create 2-24x20' panels.

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#2373810 - 09/20/17 08:27 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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No expansion joints required per the manufactures instructions on less than 30'.
Use 5/8" running across the framing. It is important to stay on the chalk line as straight will also equal square in the long run. Get off the line and every other sheet will be racked...Never leave a gap...always butt sheets tight in the open area.
Best thing to do is chalk a line at 48 1/4" off of the 1st wall and start with a 12' long board holding the end 1/4" off the wall. Hang the second 12' on the line and the first 4' wide pass will be finished. 2nd row start with a 8' board then a 12 and finish with the 4' that was cut off the 12 to make the 8'.
You'll need 12 sheets of 4x12. A 1/4" opening at the perimeter is recommended... never leave gaps in the center...
Using some adhesive on the truss's is a hassle but will make for a much better job later... twocents
I sketched out a quick layout that will be easy and waste no materials...
If it was mine I would start with 12' for the first row...then 3 8' for the second row then repeat. Installing 1x4 strip lights under the butt joints at the ends of the 8'. Less butt joints to finish and an even layout for lighting. twocents


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#2373846 - 09/20/17 09:58 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
Stanton Offline
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5/8 on a ceiling ... seriously ?!?!?

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#2373863 - 09/20/17 10:38 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: Stanton]
skicker Offline
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1/2" is not recommended in a ceiling application with joists at 24"...Its fine with 16" centers or the modified truss pattern using the 19 1/4- dimension.
It will sag eventually at 24oc using 1/2"... twocents
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#2373884 - 09/20/17 11:44 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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If you're looking just for layout skicker got it covered.

Just to clarify other stuff:
5/8" Type X is required for fire rating on attached garage walls/ceilings that are shared with rooms of the house, with fire taped joints (this can also be achieved with 2 layers regular 1/2" drywall). A detached garage probably wouldn't require this, but your local code may want it (like if 3' or less between the neighbor structure).

1/2" is good for 16" O.C. or less, and will sag on ceilings or get wavy on walls over time with wider spacing. The new "lightweight" 1/2" drywall (that everybody carries now) is "marketed" to span 24" O.C., but I'm sure will sag over time as well because moisture is the culprit. Use 5/8" for 24" O.C., and it's heavy so the lift is working smarter.

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#2373905 - 09/20/17 12:43 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
srt Offline


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Per skicker, when I wrote 1/8" max edge gap that did not mean to intentionally leave gaps, rather leave no gaps greater than 1/8". During inspections we would carry a nail and any gaps greaster were marked and taping could not commence until the gap was mudded and dried.
Point, cut edges always leave some irregularity as the cut is "snapped" after scoring the paper. This creates an irregular edge that creates a small gap. I've inspected many 10's of thousands of sq ft, and installed many 1k's of sq ft of sheetrock and can assure you that tightly butted joints cause more problems (broken edges, and cracks along tape). The small gaps between sheets actually allows a small amount of mud to penetrate and helps unify the mud/tape and panels.
One last comment, notice the edges of panels are tapered, and the ends are not. Make sure to always orient edge to edge and end to end.
If you tape the joints the reason will be clear.

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#2374009 - 09/20/17 04:10 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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Stock up on Ibuprofen. You will need it.

Wife and I did half our finished basement with 8' sheets and a Harbor Freight jack (worked pretty good).

We did the other half of the basement in a suspended ceiling--grid and panels are a lot lighter than drywall!

Sold the jack on craigslist and got 75% of the cost back.

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#2374085 - 09/20/17 06:16 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
Finoke Offline
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Originally Posted By 71sat440
Its a 24x24 I'm getting a drywall jack off of Amazon (haven't decided yet) I'm banking on spending around $130-$150 for the jack then selling on craigslist a week later for $80-$100 used.

Any tips appreciated no matter how small, like is there a preferred pattern in putting them up?


I did just that. Bought at Harbor Freight and sold on Craigslist. It sold fast!
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