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#2374101 - 09/20/17 06:31 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: Mr. Smurf]
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Originally Posted By Mr. Smurf
Originally Posted By finn
Use the drywall jack, but use white pole barn steel or garage liner material instead of Sheetrock.

Goes up fast, reflects light well, and once it's screwed in place, there is no more finishing to do.


This......

Unless you keep it heated to a constant temperature in the winter, the seams will crack.

Ed


Thats what I did in my old garage, except I put 3/4" 4'x8' rigid foam insulation under it so there was no air infiltration and I got an extra 4 or 5 R-value. Way easier than sheetrock.

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#2374133 - 09/20/17 07:12 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Rent the jack if you plan on doing it in one day and then worries about having to play the selling game.
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#2374142 - 09/20/17 07:28 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Also worth mentioning is remove the button from the top any baseball caps you might wear during the install.
Lastly even though you are using a jack, rent, borrow or buy a pair of banks so you won't need a ladder.

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#2374148 - 09/20/17 07:35 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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As far as renting stuff goes, check around. There's a small local place that rents just about anything, but they aren't open on weekends, so, you basically get three days for the price of one.

Before I bought an engine hoist, I always rented from them for this reason.

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#2374259 - 09/20/17 10:27 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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When you have the non tampered ends of the sheetrock butted against each other how do you finish them without leaving a "hump"?


Thanks for all the replies!

Heres some pics of the victim (garage) http://s2.photobucket.com/user/shirowfan/Garage/story

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#2374326 - 09/20/17 11:51 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Buy the jack and sell it when done is the best idea. Better yet auction it off and get 150% back on it!

If you rent it you will be in a hurry and watching the clock to return it on time.

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#2374344 - 09/21/17 01:26 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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On the butt joints first bed and then tape and coat tape with a 6" knife (spatula). When dry knock off any ridges with knife or sandpaper with block. Second coat 6" each side of tape, when dry knock off ridges and with a wide knife blend out another 6" (for a total of 12" each side of joint). If you do not go that far you will see the joints. In a garage you may want a smooth finish and it may be a good time to hire the finishing to a pro.
The smoother the finish the more reflected light and ease in cleaning (and painting) in the future.

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#2374372 - 09/21/17 07:36 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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I did my race shop with 5/8" everywhere, much better deal than 1/2"

I have a wall between my race shop and a truck repair garage and I did that wall with 2 sheets of 5/8" which gave me a 2 hour firewall. One may burn up but not both and it paid off one time. I had a fire and it kept my shop from burning down.

Real thankful for the 5/8" drywall and I would never consider OSB wood in my shops, that is crazy dangerous even if you don't work in your garage to have exposed wood even painted. I bet your insurance company would agree.


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#2374373 - 09/21/17 07:41 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: Satilite73]
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Originally Posted By Satilite73

As far as renting stuff goes, check around. There's a small local place that rents just about anything, but they aren't open on weekends, so, you basically get three days for the price of one.

Before I bought an engine hoist, I always rented from them for this reason.

twocents


Long time ago I rented a engine hoist so many times from the tool rental they wound up selling me the hoist after I paid for it many times over. realcrazy

Ever since then I have been buying tools, now I have too many and am going to sell some before I die. Hopefully.
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#2374374 - 09/21/17 07:45 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 4mayhemi]
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Originally Posted By 4mayhemi
If you're looking just for layout skicker got it covered.

Just to clarify other stuff:
5/8" Type X is required for fire rating on attached garage walls/ceilings that are shared with rooms of the house, with fire taped joints (this can also be achieved with 2 layers regular 1/2" drywall). A detached garage probably wouldn't require this, but your local code may want it (like if 3' or less between the neighbor structure).

1/2" is good for 16" O.C. or less, and will sag on ceilings or get wavy on walls over time with wider spacing. The new "lightweight" 1/2" drywall (that everybody carries now) is "marketed" to span 24" O.C., but I'm sure will sag over time as well because moisture is the culprit. Use 5/8" for 24" O.C., and it's heavy so the lift is working smarter.


I bought my last drywall from 84 Lumber because they had real drywall and not that lightweight junk sold now at the home centers.
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#2374397 - 09/21/17 08:53 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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Originally Posted By srt
Also worth mentioning is remove the button from the top any baseball caps you might wear during the install.

Too funny, but true! I think I've held up so many sheets with my noggin I can blame the bald spot on it!

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#2374402 - 09/21/17 09:01 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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I agree on the Mexicans or anyone that does it on a daily basis. They get it super straight, much better than I ever could. I frame it, screw it in, then farm out the finishing. We have a local place run by county where we can pick up workers, either painters, drywall guys, etc. for about $12-13/hr. They pay taxes and many are documented, so don't start the political nonsense please. Anyway, always great workers and their mudwork is top notch.
My office atrium is being tiled and drywalled now. I have never seen such intricate drywall detailing with curved walls coming to angles, etc. and insane tiling design. All latino crew and they are busting it out. It looks amazing.


Edited by p d'ro (09/21/17 09:03 AM)

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#2374907 - 09/22/17 07:46 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: p d'ro]
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After giving it some thought from the perspective of minimizing the hanging and finishing work I think this is what I would do. work

The yellow areas are 4x12x5/8" and would require 6 sheets...
The light blue areas are 4x8x5/8" and would require 9 sheets...
Areas of green are where butt jointed sheets would need to be finished.
The areas of black I would install 6 1x4 light fixtures surface mounted directly under those joints leaving nothing but taping to need installed there.
This pattern works no matter which way the truss's are installed by just rotating the layout... twocents


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#2374927 - 09/22/17 08:59 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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That layout works for 24" truss chord spacing. I see in the pics you have an attic ladder that is firred in and doubled up rafters. Is everything laid out at 24", or are there variances in spacing. Edges of the sheetrock need to be nailed off into chords or backing added, or rock needs to be edge cut.

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#2374936 - 09/22/17 09:17 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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Originally Posted By srt
Edges of the sheetrock need to be nailed off into chords or backing added, or rock needs to be edge cut.


Agreed...I have also in the past installed additional bracing where butt joints would be that was 1/8" higher than the rest of the framing. It allows you do draw up the butt joints and then feather out the finishing without a hump... twocents
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#2375261 - 09/22/17 09:46 PM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: 71sat440]
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Don't mickey mouse the job, it is not that hard. Do a professional job and you will be glad that you did. I have been in construction 38 yrs, hence my opinion, and I hate seeing mickey mouse work being done especially when it is not hard to do. I do all my own work on my reno's including boarding and taping. Ok! back to my little glass of red, carry on.
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#2375342 - 09/23/17 02:06 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: skicker]
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Originally Posted By skicker
After giving it some thought from the perspective of minimizing the hanging and finishing work I think this is what I would do. work

The yellow areas are 4x12x5/8" and would require 6 sheets...
The light blue areas are 4x8x5/8" and would require 9 sheets...
Areas of green are where butt jointed sheets would need to be finished.
The areas of black I would install 6 1x4 light fixtures surface mounted directly under those joints leaving nothing but taping to need installed there.
This pattern works no matter which way the truss's are installed by just rotating the layout... twocents


I like the idea of coving the seams with the lights, but its making me wonder, If I paint in the garage is it better to have the lights parallel or perpendicular to the car? I'm guess parallel to the sides.

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#2375353 - 09/23/17 06:14 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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Originally Posted By srt
Many people use 5/8 in a garage/shop for 1 hr fire rating.


Here in Massachusetts, cars are classified as "infernal machines", a fire hazard. 5/8ths "fire code" is required. Not sure if garage is not "attached".

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#2375375 - 09/23/17 08:26 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: Finoke]
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I used Vinyl soffit material to finish my garage ceiling. It's not a cheap way to go but I was able to do it with no help and there's no finishing or painting required.


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#2376941 - 09/26/17 12:42 AM Re: Any tips for drywalling a garage ceiling? [Re: srt]
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I tried measuring from the sides of the garage towards the middle and something didn't seem right so I tried to measure from the center rafter outwards and it was 14 1/2 14 1/2 then jumped to 14 3/4 then was 14 1/2 a couple more times then went down to 14 1/4 then started going back to 14 1/2. Not quite as simple as I was hoping it was going to be.......

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