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New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger #2370572
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Just thought I would share an update on the Avenger. Last weekend at Earlville we were racing at the NHRA Div 5 race. Ran a 6.66@208 with a .974 60'. Air was decent but not stellar. We are running a Sonny 762 Hemi EFI built by Jerry Janato and tuned by Joe at Hyperactive. Everything is falling in place and every race we pick up. Yes I'm running a Chevy.

Not sure why the pictures won't post?

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Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370580
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That's awesome! That 60' has to feel good!


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
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Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2370586
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Congrats.. you have it running real strong
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I love the aspect that its EFI up
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Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370592
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It's not really a Chevy, Ford, or Mopar, It's a purpose built race engine, and congrats!

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370603
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Nothing Chevy about it, as mentioned above it's a purpose built race engine. If I was smart I'd go that direction as well. up


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Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370610
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Awesome!! even though those are the devil numbers! up bow

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: camastomcat] #2370611
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Photobucket officially sucks now. Car photo from a previous race.

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Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370665
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What EFI system are you using? Just thinking that with those big valve covers you could run coils for each cylinder and get rid of the distributor and the coil that you have mounted up front. With individual coils you can adjust the timing for each cylinder. If you have a Holley EFI system it should be plug and play to switch to 8 coils.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370690
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Thanks guys. It's a fine line with the Moparts police on what's a mopar and a Chevy engine haha.

Thanks Rick for posting the pictures, for those who don't know Rick Seeman originally built my car and combo.

Im an old school carb guy and decided to go EFI after talking with Joe from Hyperactive. Joe is only 20 minutes from my house and is one of the best in the business. Incredible service at any time of the day. We decided to keep it simple this year. I have a Haltec Elite 2500 with Billet Atomizer injectors, and acufab 8500 throttle bodies. Throttle response is insane, no lag like a carb. Mat the peddle and instantly goes on the brake.

I have a Grid in the car but the Haltec controls everything. Next year we plan on running coils and then can remove the distributor, large coil, and all MSD ignition products. With the Haltec all I have to do is add 8 LS coils and be set. Baby steps for this year.

Should of gone EFI years ago. It's working great and the tuning is so easy. Joe made a few base maps and most of my tuning has been in the hot summer months. So we're still a little lean on this pass but getting close. I also have a spare 822" sonny Hemi that we are going to try the new acufab splits on. It will have 16 injectors (8 in the throttle bodies and 8 in the runners). My 822" makes 1840HP on the current carburetor splits. May loose a little HP with EFI but will probably ET better.

My goal is to be in the 6.50's running NA with the 762. Just about there now just need to work on the fuel map a little. My 822" should run low 6.40's NA.

My Penske 4-way air shocks work wonders for the 60' time. Still more there just need some shock tweaking. In St. Louis we hope to 60' high .960's on a better track. Earlville was never prepped or dragged all weekend. Lot of guys were having problems getting down the track including me on a few passes.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370750
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I don't know the Haltec system but I do know that the top of the line EFI systems allow you to get rid of all of the MSD stuff as well as the RacePak. The EFI computer will do all of the data acquisition as well as control the ignition, run the two step, control nitrous or boost, etc.

As you say, the tuning is much easier with EFI since you can see everything that the engine is supposed to do right on the screen. Start retard, high speed retard, high speed lean out, etc. Just a matter of typing the numbers into the correct box and pressing enter. Good luck, looks like a fun ride.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2370783
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Livin' the dream! Go win some races with that thing!

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: camastomcat] #2371189
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Originally Posted By camastomcat
It's not really a Chevy, Ford, or Mopar, It's a purpose built race engine, and congrats!

And you can still put on one of those "Yeah, It's Got a HEMI" bumper stickers. wink

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2371259
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With the Haltec you can get rid of everything, but nothing compares to a Racepak. Racepak is the best system out there with the best software. I tried using the Haltec data and it's very basic. Luckily you can interface the Haltec with the racepak so all the logging is automatically uploaded on my racepak graphs.


Originally I was going to use a big stuff 3 system but very glad I went with the Haltec.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2371304
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That's a fast A$$ MoPar.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2372151
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Not sure why these posts don't gather more interest? This is a big accomplishment. I wish I could afford one of those powerplants!

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: camastomcat] #2372179
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I agree. Good stuff, and Sean is in the fastest div. in the country. T/S and especially T/D really fly there. The ultimate classes as far as I'm concerned. The 762 I was involved with was ultra reliable and ultra consistent. Sonny's parts but Andy Spiegel built. 60K just in parts. It's still running in a TNT car here in div. 7. The other engine I'm impressed with is Joe Roubicek's and it's a Sonny's Big Stuff FI 688. Joe has been pretty much top of the list in div. 7 for the last few years with that combo though there are a couple blown cars that go around him in the order now. It's not even the initial investment with these engines as they only make 40-50 passes before it's 10-20K for freshening. Alguire's car will be all Mopar and I can't wait to see that car go down the track.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2372436
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Is his a 5 or 5.3 bore space? True Hemi or do they have a cant to them?

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2372558
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I believe that it's 5.0 BS and the heads are slightly canted valves but the intake and exhaust runners are 180 degrees from each other, plug toward the exhaust. You can stick your arm down the runners of these things. The OP can answer this better. If you go to the Sonny's website you can see all the jewelry.

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2372705
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that's rockin.....

Re: New Best 6.66 @ 208 with my Chemi Bickel Avenger [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #2372772
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That's awesome.. I wish I could do it .. would love to squeeze one in the duster lol

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