Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Dave are you using the pink gaskets or the black thicker gaskets?
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Road hazard I'm a customer of yours I purchased my gaskets through Glendora Dodge... there's a desperate need for someone to make a soft valve cover gasket for a Mopar W8 as well as intake manifold gaskets... the W8 and W9 intake manifold gaskets are interchangeable I believe
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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I've had pretty good luck with the Fel-Pro 1612's when the pieces aren't perfect.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Unfortunately my bad luck, exactly the one's I have recently used on my BB Edy aluminum head, MOPAR performance aluminum valve covers. Both sides at rear bottom bolt seep no manner how tightly I cinch them and how often. It does seem that I can always get another half turn of the bolts as it appears this gasket has infinite crush capabilities. Had switched from cork for re-usuability which had only leaked a very modest amount on right rear cover,,,which was corrected with a dab of silicone black at that point. Moroso's, I have never removed but about to give them the silicone treatment,,,,but am uncertain if will do any good as they are now oil soaked. If this fails, back to cork I go. Yes I suspect that valve cover machining may be questionable too and in that is where my Moroso problems lie. Particularly as others are having success.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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The Fel-Pro 1612's work excellent for rpm heads and mp cast valve covers.
The big down side with them for me has been.......after they have been installed a while, when you remove the v/c, it usually tears the gasket, and you need to replace them.
I've had good results with the moroso gaskets on Indy heads using Indy v/c's, with studs and nylock nuts. I squish them down a little and call it good.
I'm jealous of how clean that engine bay is!!!
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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The Fel-Pro 1612's work excellent for rpm heads and mp cast valve covers.
The big down side with them for me has been.......after they have been installed a while, when you remove the v/c, it usually tears the gasket, and you need to replace them.
I've had good results with the moroso gaskets on Indy heads using Indy v/c's, with studs and nylock nuts. I squish them down a little and call it good.
I'm jealous of how clean that engine bay is!!!
Next engine you do an engine with Indy covers try a set of the Cometic rubber coated steel gaskets. The Cometic gaskets are a step or two better than the Moroso gaskets. I've thrown all my Moroso gaskets away and switched all of my engines over to the Cometic gaskets. Zero leaks even after having the covers on and off a bunch. And the Cometic gaskets will hold a bunch of pan vacuum.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Unfortunately my bad luck, exactly the one's I have recently used on my BB Edy aluminum head, MOPAR performance aluminum valve covers. Both sides at rear bottom bolt seep no manner how tightly I cinch them and how often. It does seem that I can always get another half turn of the bolts as it appears this gasket has infinite crush capabilities. Had switched from cork for re-usuability which had only leaked a very modest amount on right rear cover,,,which was corrected with a dab of silicone black at that point. Moroso's, I have never removed but about to give them the silicone treatment,,,,but am uncertain if will do any good as they are now oil soaked. If this fails, back to cork I go. Yes I suspect that valve cover machining may be questionable too and in that is where my Moroso problems lie. Particularly as others are having success. With a nice clean engine compartment like that you should consider tossing the MP valve covers and getting some nice billet covers. Not sheet metal covers, billet ones. Like these:
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Dave......you do have some breathers on the motor, right?
Andy.....what's interesting on the mp cast covers is.......they seem to work just fine on stock heads with the normal Fel-Pro cork gaskets. I just silicone the gasket to the v/c, and I have been able to R&R the v/c's numerous times.....no leaks at all.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Unfortunately my bad luck, exactly the one's I have recently used on my BB Edy aluminum head, MOPAR performance aluminum valve covers. Both sides at rear bottom bolt seep no manner how tightly I cinch them and how often. It does seem that I can always get another half turn of the bolts as it appears this gasket has infinite crush capabilities. Had switched from cork for re-usuability which had only leaked a very modest amount on right rear cover,,,which was corrected with a dab of silicone black at that point. Moroso's, I have never removed but about to give them the silicone treatment,,,,but am uncertain if will do any good as they are now oil soaked. If this fails, back to cork I go. Yes I suspect that valve cover machining may be questionable too and in that is where my Moroso problems lie. Particularly as others are having success. With a nice clean engine compartment like that you should consider tossing the MP valve covers and getting some nice billet covers. Not sheet metal covers, billet ones. Like these: Very high tech and what's more,,,very pretty. My wife might even let me set this in the living room.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: mopar dave]
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You need to check the valve cover with a straight edge,if they ain't flat and you can't make them flat,then you need the 1/2 inch thick gaskets so you have room to crush,,,,,,don't ask how I know
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Boy has this thread gone off the rails.....
MoparDave has a tech question about one of my products and I come on here to assist him in resolving the issue and diverts to Mopar Performance valve covers, this brand gasket, that brand gasket, pimping billet valve covers, etc..
When someone purchases from Superformance Products they get real, honest and cohesive tech support direct from the manufacturer. Take advantage of that benefit.
Posting an issue on a web forum muddies the water with expert "opinions" and can take hours or even days with back and forth questions and answers when a 5 minute phone call can get someone on track. I simply can not sit here and monitor moparts for everything that goes on or every question that may arise, it's just a side benefit that I'm a member who enjoys the hobby and willing to help where and when I can.
Dave, call me @ 866-925-78 five five and lets get the answers to your questions handled!
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Boy has this thread gone off the rails..... Just the nature of the beast Greg.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Personally, I don't think this thread got off the rails. Although, that does happen a lot around here. The OP asked a question of the members and the answers have been relatively on target. I like and use Superformance gaskets.....in certain places. They are the ONLY thing that I have found that can stop my intake from sucking oil. But their valve cover gaskets leaked on my Hemi. Fel Pros stopped the leaks. I think because they were softer. Plus they are a lot cheaper. I do have to torque them occasionally. And I change them when I adjust the valves. Works out to about $15 a year. But the oil stays in the engine now. Just my .
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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No reason to be sorry and I know you are not knocking anything, just need a little bit of help and I'm more than willing to give it. Just give me a call. It's just much easier and more productive to have a conversation over the phone than go through every little technical detail that may or may not be pertinent to you while pecking away at a keyboard while others take the conversation off into la la land. For those injecting the greatness of the 1612 (made of pulp fiber aka paper) I'd guess have never seen or used our Carbon-X that have been out for 4 years this month and have become very very popular. Posted 9/17/13 https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post1503062
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Getting the covers off now. Let me get a hard look at the flanges and ill call. Once you tighten em up a couple of times, you'll notice they will need to go back on into the same impregnation they made to seal and you can feel it when it's right........
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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If the surface is not flat,,,,,,leak you will.Don't ask how I know
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Those are new to me. I've used the "thick" Fel-Pro gaskets mentioned above, but like fast68plymouth mentioned, they delaminate (peel apart?) during the first disassembly. If my standard Superformance VC gaskets have any sealing issues w/ Indy cast covers on Edelbrock Victor heads (something odd about the Victor's valve cover rail, as I recall from AndyF), then would the Carbon-X be your next suggestion?
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Those are new to me. I've used the "thick" Fel-Pro gaskets mentioned above, but like fast68plymouth mentioned, they delaminate (peel apart?) during the first disassembly. If my standard Superformance VC gaskets have any sealing issues w/ Indy cast covers on Edelbrock Victor heads (something odd about the Victor's valve cover rail, as I recall from AndyF), then would the Carbon-X be your next suggestion? If you have the Superformance #3186 Micropore-15 valve cover gaskets check and be sure the valve cover sealing surface is flat. You won't have any issues.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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yep, mine leak real bad if i put any RPM on engine, 4000 up. mine look like they leak at the top. driving with the hood off pushes the oil to the front of the valley tray making it look like the chain cover is leaking. ????? So if your valve covers are leaking at the "top" which is very unusual. Would there not be oil pooled on the cylinder head and intake manifold? Looking at your picture there is plenty of area for oil to pool on your (Victor?) heads. Hood off or not, oil up by the timing cover might suggest your valley cover or possibly even your distributor is leaking. I don't know, I'm not there. "You" need to confirm exactly where the leak is coming from. May not be the valve covers at all.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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I like and use Superformance gaskets.....in certain places. They are the ONLY thing that I have found that can stop my intake from sucking oil. But their valve cover gaskets leaked on my Hemi. Just my . I will refer you to my previous comment.... "When someone purchases from Superformance Products they get real, honest and cohesive tech support direct from the manufacturer. Take advantage of that benefit." The root cause of your problem could have been addressed with a simple phone call, sorry you didn't take advantage of that. Thanks for your support
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Carbon-X is what I used on mine with the Indy no logo covers and dry as a bone. Bill, I would have suggested the #3186 Micropore-15 gaskets for your application, that's what they were made for. The Carbon-X will work though. As always, thanks for your support
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Those are new to me. I've used the "thick" Fel-Pro gaskets mentioned above, but like fast68plymouth mentioned, they delaminate (peel apart?) during the first disassembly. If my standard Superformance VC gaskets have any sealing issues w/ Indy cast covers on Edelbrock Victor heads (something odd about the Victor's valve cover rail, as I recall from AndyF), then would the Carbon-X be your next suggestion? If you have the Superformance #3186 Micropore-15 valve cover gaskets check and be sure the valve cover sealing surface is flat. You won't have any issues. The issue isn't whether the cast valve cover flange and the cylinder head valve cover rail are both flat (they are), but an overhanging issue like I believe AndyF brought up previously. When I put the MP-15 gasket on the valve cover, it's a pretty good match. When I put the same gasket on the head, it overhangs the intake-side of the valve cover rail noticeably, leaving only part of the gasket to seal on the head while the outer edge is covered up by the exposed lip of the underside of the valve cover flange. This is an Edelbrock BB Victor design eff-up, but it is what it is.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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I've probably said this a million times but "not everything works with everything". It isn't like there is an official Mopar aftermarket certification board that hands out stamps of approvals for Mopar parts. People just make stuff and sell it and maybe it fits and maybe it doesn't. Exactly.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Those are new to me. I've used the "thick" Fel-Pro gaskets mentioned above, but like fast68plymouth mentioned, they delaminate (peel apart?) during the first disassembly. If my standard Superformance VC gaskets have any sealing issues w/ Indy cast covers on Edelbrock Victor heads (something odd about the Victor's valve cover rail, as I recall from AndyF), then would the Carbon-X be your next suggestion? If you have the Superformance #3186 Micropore-15 valve cover gaskets check and be sure the valve cover sealing surface is flat. You won't have any issues. The issue isn't whether the cast valve cover flange and the cylinder head valve cover rail are both flat (they are), but an overhanging issue like I believe AndyF brought up previously. When I put the MP-15 gasket on the valve cover, it's a pretty good match. When I put the same gasket on the head, it overhangs the intake-side of the valve cover rail noticeably, leaving only part of the gasket to seal on the head while the outer edge is covered up by the exposed lip of the underside of the valve cover flange. This is an Edelbrock BB Victor design eff-up, but it is what it is. So what you are telling me is the gasket does not cover the whole flange on the cylinder head and there is exposed sealing area area? I understand what is being said about the alignment of the valve cover flange in reference to the cylinder head flange not being in optimum alignment. If you had .125" or more of contact area where the valve cover and the cylinder head meet on the top sealing surface it should be enough to load the gasket and create a seal. Now let's just say you only had .125" of good contact area between the valve cover and cylinder head along the top rail. If you "increase" the thickness of the gasket it will tend to roll/twist the gasket on that flange and give you the shear that Andy speaks of. More thickness and softer density will make the matter worse. Can you set the gasket on the head, throw in some bolts for alignment and snap a pic or two of the flange area?
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Another reason the MP cast covers can be difficult to seal with thinner, less compliant gaskets is there are irregularities cast into the sealing surface area.
Even if the covers aren't warped, the gasket surface isn't "flat"(smooth).
Brad, if you have a sharpie/marker, you could color up the upper v/c rail on the head, lay the gasket on it, and scribe a line of where the inner edge of the gasket sits. After pulling the gasket off, you'd be able to see how much overlap there is.
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So what you are telling me is the gasket does not cover the whole flange on the cylinder head and there is exposed sealing area area? Yep. Can you set the gasket on the head, throw in some bolts for alignment and snap a pic or two of the flange area? Yep.
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So what you are telling me is the gasket does not cover the whole flange on the cylinder head and there is exposed sealing area area? Yep. Can you set the gasket on the head, throw in some bolts for alignment and snap a pic or two of the flange area? Yep. Thank you! look forward to the pics
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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ok, I found the extensive part of the oil leak. Was leaking from the valley pan directly under the intake. Pulled the cover, cleaned it up good and sealed it with the Right Stuff. Installed the cork valve cover gaskets, went for a power ride and no leaks. non, not even a drop. Cool, I'm sure happy with that cause this thing was leaving pools of oil on the cover. You would be amazed at the amount of oil that slings off the cam and hits the bottom of the valley plate/ bathtub gasket! Maybe the valve cover gaskets were not leaking after all but as we discussed over the phone, would be good to get them surfaced flat over the winter, put the original gaskets back on and roll with it. Nice chatting with you Dave
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
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Another reason the MP cast covers can be difficult to seal with thinner, less compliant gaskets is there are irregularities cast into the sealing surface area.
Even if the covers aren't warped, the gasket surface isn't "flat"(smooth).
Brad, if you have a sharpie/marker, you could color up the upper v/c rail on the head, lay the gasket on it, and scribe a line of where the inner edge of the gasket sits. After pulling the gasket off, you'd be able to see how much overlap there is. Again, I'm using MP covers that do not leak a drop after about 8 years and yes, the thin red ones. Silicon-ed to the covers on rpm heads..........
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Got the .047 for my SRS working fine! been taking covers off and on to check valve cleareance doing ok.
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09/08/17 06:51 PM
09/08/17 06:51 PM
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I used Greg's pink gaskets with the mopar cast covers and my eddy heads, i sanded all the casting flash off the covers before using them put the gaskets on dry and they sealed fine. I tried the moroso gaskets with the steel band inside and they were a complete disaster. Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: roadhazard]
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09/09/17 03:38 PM
09/09/17 03:38 PM
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BradH
Taking time off to work on my car
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So what you are telling me is the gasket does not cover the whole flange on the cylinder head and there is exposed sealing area area? Yep. Can you set the gasket on the head, throw in some bolts for alignment and snap a pic or two of the flange area? Yep. Thank you! look forward to the pics Pics taken, but I need to resize them before I can post them. Should be later today. FWIW, the sealing area is reduced to .200" on the top rail due to the differences in gasket railing spacing.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: BradH]
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09/20/17 11:55 AM
09/20/17 11:55 AM
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roadhazard
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So what you are telling me is the gasket does not cover the whole flange on the cylinder head and there is exposed sealing area area? Yep. Can you set the gasket on the head, throw in some bolts for alignment and snap a pic or two of the flange area? Yep. Thank you! look forward to the pics Pics taken, but I need to resize them before I can post them. Should be later today. FWIW, the sealing area is reduced to .200" on the top rail due to the differences in gasket railing spacing.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: BradH]
#2374339
09/21/17 02:59 AM
09/21/17 02:59 AM
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mikeysmopars
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Last two showing gasket & valve cover from the bottom view along the intake rail and at the corner. This is the same thing I have going on with the same gaskets, I brought this up to Greg which he took a lot of time to try to help including offering new gaskets but which gaskets work best on Indy big block heads and valve covers? Indy's leaked out of the gate. Superformance lasted the longest but still leak when I ran the valves a couple times.
Founder and CEO of the Central Valley Mopar Drag Pack
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: roadhazard]
#2374452
09/21/17 12:18 PM
09/21/17 12:18 PM
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You would be amazed at the amount of oil that slings off the cam and hits the bottom of the valley plate/ bathtub gasket! Maybe the valve cover gaskets were not leaking after all but as we discussed over the phone, would be good to get them surfaced flat over the winter, put the original gaskets back on and roll with it. Nice chatting with you Dave [/quote] This where this shows its value.Splash shield! Also keep oil from slinging on the bottom of the intake or valley gasket.
HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: mikeysmopars]
#2374494
09/21/17 01:38 PM
09/21/17 01:38 PM
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BradH
Taking time off to work on my car
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Taking time off to work on my car
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Last two showing gasket & valve cover from the bottom view along the intake rail and at the corner. This is the same thing I have going on with the same gaskets, I brought this up to Greg which he took a lot of time to try to help including offering new gaskets but which gaskets work best on Indy big block heads and valve covers? Indy's leaked out of the gate. Superformance lasted the longest but still leak when I ran the valves a couple times. I've never expected valve cover gaskets to be reusable, for the most part. I hate leaks... If they'll seal the first time on, but need to be replaced every time the covers come off, then it'll just be another consumable item to keep extras on hand.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: mikeysmopars]
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09/30/17 02:14 PM
09/30/17 02:14 PM
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Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A.
roadhazard
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This is the same thing I have going on with the same gaskets, I brought this up to Greg which he took a lot of time to try to help including offering new gaskets but which gaskets work best on Indy big block heads and valve covers? Indy's leaked out of the gate. Superformance lasted the longest but still leak when I ran the valves a couple times.
Mike you have the #3186 gasket which was designed with the intention of it being "The Gasket To Use" with the Indy heads and valve covers. As I stated in our conversations there is something going on with the components you are using. Either flatness, valve cover hold downs or something. Heck, it could be something else leaking making it look like the valve covers. You never let me know if you wanted to try a set of the Carbon-X gaskets..... the offer still stands.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets
[Re: eds dart]
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09/30/17 02:17 PM
09/30/17 02:17 PM
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roadhazard
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the pink gaskets didn,t work on my victors either. plus they tore after I took the covers off the first time after first passes to redo lash. went back to mr gasket black cork type, rtv.d to cylinder head side. worked for years on stock heads and cast valve covers. will see longevity on this set up. don't think pink gaskets are the problem, the identified mismatch at the cylinder head is the source off the problems. why eldebrock built the victors this way???? Should have contacted me....... "When someone purchases from Superformance Products they get real, honest and cohesive tech support direct from the manufacturer. Take advantage of that benefit."
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