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#2353272 - 08/13/17 02:08 PM Bare 6.1 block from Indy?
cudadoug Offline
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Anyone buy a bare 6.1 block from Indy cylinder heads? Seem to be the cheapest on the planet at $995. when I called them he wasn't in the mood for questions. ANY questions...

Seems the going rate elsewhere is $1600-1800, so does anyone know what the catch is??

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#2353280 - 08/13/17 02:35 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
hudsonhornet7x Offline
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1. Indy is run by d!ckheads.

2. They must have dropped their price, I called 1.5 years ago and the blocks were 1500 if I remember correctly.

3. It was RUMORED that the blocks Indy has were 2nds and had problems. What problems those were I am unaware of.


If you decide to look for a 6.4 vvt block ( new) please pm me.
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#2353313 - 08/13/17 04:33 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: hudsonhornet7x]
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Registered: 11/17/03
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Loc: NW Indiana
I seriously doubt they have any 6.1 blocks left. They never update their advertising.

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#2353622 - 08/14/17 11:56 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: hudsonhornet7x]
MattW Offline
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Registered: 06/02/05
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Loc: Ontario Canada

INDY bought a bunch of defective blocks for dirt cheap from Fiat years AGO. Tread lightly.
Matt

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#2353885 - 08/14/17 07:21 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
Medlock51 Offline
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What does a 6.2/6.4 block sell for?

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#2353945 - 08/14/17 09:18 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: Medlock51]
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I have a new in the crate 6.2 Hellcat block for $1350.

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#2354055 - 08/14/17 11:59 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: MattW]
cudadoug Offline
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Originally Posted By MattW

INDY bought a bunch of defective blocks for dirt cheap from Fiat years AGO. Tread lightly.
Matt


That doesn't surprise me, sadly. I called again trying to ask questions and was told "buy one, that will answer all your questions." Then promptly hung up on me. Holy smokes!

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#2354092 - 08/15/17 05:24 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
ric3xrt Offline
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Indy = Pot luck.
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#2354095 - 08/15/17 05:57 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
496 A-body Offline
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Anyone buy a bare 6.1 block from Indy cylinder heads? Seem to be the cheapest on the planet at $995. when I called them he wasn't in the mood for questions. ANY questions...

Seems the going rate elsewhere is $1600-1800, so does anyone know what the catch is??


That ad with the $995 price is very old, 2012 or so. I emailed them about one of those blocks a while back and was quoted $1995, shortly after that I attended the Indy Mopar swap meet and they had one of those blocks in their booth for $2995

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#2354860 - 08/16/17 12:04 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: 496 A-body]
MattW Offline
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Originally Posted By 496 A-body
Originally Posted By cudadoug
Anyone buy a bare 6.1 block from Indy cylinder heads? Seem to be the cheapest on the planet at $995. when I called them he wasn't in the mood for questions. ANY questions...

Seems the going rate elsewhere is $1600-1800, so does anyone know what the catch is??


That ad with the $995 price is very old, 2012 or so. I emailed them about one of those blocks a while back and was quoted $1995, shortly after that I attended the Indy Mopar swap meet and they had one of those blocks in their booth for $2995


For less than 1500.00 you can get a truck AKA Hellcat block right from FIAT already machined.
That block will take more that 99.99999% of the abuse most can throw at it!
Matt

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#2355175 - 08/16/17 09:43 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
sixpackgut Offline
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Registered: 06/08/03
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Loc: Charleston
Originally Posted By cudadoug
Originally Posted By MattW

INDY bought a bunch of defective blocks for dirt cheap from Fiat years AGO. Tread lightly.
Matt


That doesn't surprise me, sadly. I called again trying to ask questions and was told "buy one, that will answer all your questions." Then promptly hung up on me. Holy smokes!



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#2355177 - 08/16/17 09:48 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
sixpackgut Offline
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Ill sell you a 6.1 block for $5k.

It comes with lifters, cam, pistons, rods, crank, timing chain, oil pump, pickup, windage tray, milodan pan. And it was balanced, machined and assembled by the clearance nazi as I use to call him. RIP Dan
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#2355302 - 08/17/17 06:43 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: MattW]
moparmitch Offline
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Registered: 02/16/10
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Loc: Michigan
Get a 6.1 block if you can find a good one at a fair price.

New blocks require a cheesy cam phaser lockout and there's no after market timing sets available to eliminate the cam phasing mechanism and OEM timing chain all together. There's also a specific cam core needed because of the related cam phasing BS that was done to the block.

Has anyone measured the quality/accuracy of the newer OEM machined blocks vs a block machined by a good machine shop?

There's a reason the OEM 6.1 blocks are still in high demand (and very expensive) and why the aluminum performance blocks are based off the 6.1.

Be careful when offered the cool-aid for the newer blocks...

A newer block will work, just be aware of the never ending Mopar band-aids and fixes needed to make something work outside of a production environment.

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#2358177 - 08/22/17 03:14 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
ericlre79 Offline
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Registered: 01/05/07
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Loc: Massachusetts
So whats the market value of a as delivered never run, stock bore 6.1 block out of my 2009 Dragpak? I run the 5.7 and the 5.9 magnum so other than using it for a coffee table, it will never get used by me. Eric

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#2358238 - 08/22/17 05:27 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
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Loc: Renton Washington
I'll start the bidding at $1.

I'd probably list it for $2500+ considering its a virgin block with machine work "ready to go" that will help the value.
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#2358457 - 08/23/17 05:53 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
ric3xrt Offline
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Registered: 01/13/06
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Bought a few 6.1s at an estate sale 3 weeks back several blocks a few short blocks and a few crate engines , 2 of the 6.1 blocks had Indy Shipping labels on the crates,...sent both over to the machine shop, deck was fine, crank bore alignment was fine, Block 1 ,Core shift on passenger side bank was not fine, block 2 is ok all way around...Indy = pot luck.
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#2358458 - 08/23/17 06:04 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: cudadoug]
gregsdart Offline
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6.1 blocks are scarce enough that NHRA now allows the use of the aluminum block. Chuck Lofgren reported a significant power increase, and poor 60 fts because the car trips the 60 ft beams with the back tires. Chassis tuning time😀


Edited by gregsdart (08/23/17 06:05 AM)
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#2358850 - 08/23/17 10:07 PM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: ric3xrt]
mrploww Offline
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Registered: 09/02/03
Posts: 251
Loc: Marysville, OH
Originally Posted By ric3xrt
Bought a few 6.1s at an estate sale 3 weeks back several blocks a few short blocks and a few crate engines , 2 of the 6.1 blocks had Indy Shipping labels on the crates,...sent both over to the machine shop, deck was fine, crank bore alignment was fine, Block 1 ,Core shift on passenger side bank was not fine, block 2 is ok all way around...Indy = pot luck.



You going to sell any of those 6.1 blocks or engines?
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#2359022 - 08/24/17 08:13 AM Re: Bare 6.1 block from Indy? [Re: mrploww]
ric3xrt Offline
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Registered: 01/13/06
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Loc: Sellersville Pa
Originally Posted By mrploww
Originally Posted By ric3xrt
Bought a few 6.1s at an estate sale 3 weeks back several blocks a few short blocks and a few crate engines , 2 of the 6.1 blocks had Indy Shipping labels on the crates,...sent both over to the machine shop, deck was fine, crank bore alignment was fine, Block 1 ,Core shift on passenger side bank was not fine, block 2 is ok all way around...Indy = pot luck.



You going to sell any of those 6.1 blocks or engines?


Honestly I don't know yet.
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2003 Ram st
2004 Rumble Bee
2005 Ram GTX
Any info on these trucks is greatly appreciated
2005 Ram 1500 (drag truck in building
2014 1500 tradesman(shhhh, it's hiding a 7.0 short block under those eagle heads.

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