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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156421
05/07/09 01:10 AM
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Black/blackish smoke is from overfueling. Blue would be oil, and white, of course, is coolant typical of a head gasket. What you are describing sounds pretty typical for an automatic choke Mopar, especially if it's not right up to tune. No matter...now the fun starts...and the long process of bringing her back to her former glory.

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: 4speeds4me] #156422
07/06/09 01:05 AM
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Finally made some more progress. After pulling the rear glass, I started on some body repair around the frame. Need to order clips for the trim, yet. Vinyl I ordered for the seats is here but I'm waiting until I finish work on the top and windshield/rear glass frames b4 doing upholstery; No room to keep anywhere but in the car when done and I don't want them to get wet soooo Got new axle bearings done and installed. Took it for a test drive today. The rear end noise is gone! That takes a lot of the weight off my mind. I really don't want to learn diff repair right now LOL Also, while driving it, there doesn't seem to be as much smoke as when I first got it running. There's the white smoke at first and a puff when ever I get into the gas pedal after slow cruise, so I guessing mostly head gaskets and the carb loading up. Really need to think about a new fuel sending unit soon too. Before I could go anywhere today, I had to go get gas in the gas can. Fuel gauge no worky and of course, tank was MT. It's always something
Pictured is the area I'm working on currently. Pretty; huh?

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156423
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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156424
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Question, is that flash rust on your patch panel?

Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: ridenlow12] #156425
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No rust. It's just the paint that is discolored from heat. The patch was cut from a door panel salvaged after I replaced a door on my 74 PW. Truck was gold, but when I cut the old door down to "storable" pieces, the paint discolored on the edges. I will buff the paint off before welding begins. I just have it held with magnet for test fitting

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156426
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ok phew, i made the mistake once and i will never do it again.

Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: ridenlow12] #156427
07/12/09 09:58 PM
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One down, about ten more to go and I can put the glass back in (of course, after I do the finish work )

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156428
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The "Before" picture:

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156429
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Looks much better Scott!

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: jrwoodjoe] #156430
08/22/09 12:11 AM
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Scott that patch is awesome!! Nice work! I'll suggets you strip the interior thoughust to make it easier and not to burn anything useable!

You saw mine - no vinyl top, but strobes - I like it. I decided to prep and paint it without the top, knowing it could be added by me or another owner with little effort.

Keep it going!!

Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: etek] #156431
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Looking good! I'd keep the Rallyes btw, they look great on it


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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: 69bronzeT5] #156432
10/09/09 01:02 AM
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Well, another season is drawing to a close. Don't suppose it will be finished this year either. Guess that's why its a hobby Rust is all patched around rear glass frame but I won't get the glass back in this year. I have a tarp over it now and my nephew is letting me store it in his garage for the winter. Up side is: its bigger than buddies where I kept it last year, so I could actually work on it. Down side: its a lot further away.
Got bored and pulled out the rotten carpet and looky what I found!! If it were easy I guess more people would be doing it LOL

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156433
10/09/09 01:34 AM
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The car has the typical oxidation on all the door and rear interior panels. I don't see me replacing with new ones anytime soon (unless they quit picking the wrong lottery numbers But I noticed that if you scrape the oxidation off, it doesn't look too bad underneath. OK it doesn't look as bad. OK its at least black plastic instead of gray powdery crud that sheds off every time you touch it. So, on another bout of boredom I sat with a beer (or two..ok JEEZE!! THREE!!!) and a dull knife and scraped down both door panels. They looked pretty rough when I was done so I wiped the down with some vegetable oil (it was handy and I couldn't find the Armour-All). IMHO, They don't look too bad! Gonna do the same to the rear panels but there is some material missing all together on the portion where they meet the rear window shelf. Like I said, I'm not trying to do a 100 point car; I may get new panels someday, but for now I'll live with them and maybe see if I can do something with the leftover seat vinyl in the way of a "cover-up"

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Re: 1965 cuda project [Re: Scott Carl] #156434
10/09/09 07:29 PM
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Here is a project car I found sitting in the woods since 1972 on my friends property. The car has a 273 commando engine that is seized. Currently I ran out of money for the project and itis sitting until spring (because I am working on my sons 68 cougar xr7). I have a set of front disc brakes from a 66 valiant, replacement gastank, and new fuel lines ready to go in. Anybody know where I can get the brake booster re-built. The hood is sitting in the gararge.

Any help you coud offer will be appreciated since I am not sure what I am doing.You could contact me at anthonyrusso4@comcast.net or just send me a pm.

The owner of the property has a few more mopars there - 66 dart gt, 64 dodge 500, and a few more darts of various years.

Thnaks.

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Re: Just another '74 Challenger [Re: MECCprofessor] #156435
11/16/09 12:50 AM
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Thought I'd update my progress. I did some welding and pretty much have it all wrapped up around the back glass. Just have to do the finish and paint but I won't be getting that done this season. Getting ready to put it back in storage for the winter, I have the glass in my office (Wife loves the new decoration ) I don't have a pic yet after all the welding was done but here are a few during work. Enjoy!

Here is after I got the rust cut out. Interior bracing I shot undercoat in until it dripped. Should slow down that problem area at least until I die LOL

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Re: Just Another '74 Callenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156436
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Re: Just another '74 Callenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156437
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And more: BTW, NO I didn't weld with the seat still in the back. I just took the pick after I stuck it back in

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Re: Just another '74 Callenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156438
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Also, I'm gathering components for the upcoming engine upgrade. I got this manifold and a pair of magnum exhaust manifolds from my nephew (Thanks again Tony ) The intake is off a mid-60s 273. The AVS my dad already had and is, according to the p/n, off a 71 C-body BB so I will have to drill the base plate to make it work on the SB intake. Window shopping for a cam kit. Looking at the stock 340 cam or one of the milder aftermarket cams in that performance range. Lunati's are in my ball park budget. I can't wait to start on the engine. It's been years since I've done any serious engine work and I'm looking forward to the extra power. It runs pretty good now, however; the rings seem to have loosened up and re-sealed after the years of sitting. Last time I ran it it only smoked on initial start-up. I figure worn valve guides or the valve seals aren't doing their job very well any more. There is only 102k on it but as I said in the OP, it sat idle for many years and there was that flood thingy LOL. Onward and forward

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Re: Just another '74 Callenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156439
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Just a few updates: It was a long hard winter here in the Heartland. With record snowfall, the car was inaccessible for much of the winter due to where I had it stored. Safe, dry, but totally snowed in. Well its back home now. The drive was interesting; engine seems to be getting better (rings getting freer and reseated?) but the trans won't shift into drive. Consequently, I drove the 15 or so miles from my nephew's garage to home in second gear and could only cruise 35 or 40 mph (50 or so coasting down hills;) )All guestamations as the speedo doesn't work either. Checked the kickdown linkage and it seems to be in good working order and I assume the adjustment is correct since its never been removed, so I'm going to drop the pan and maybe the valve body. Maybe so crud clogging things up. I have the BB AVS tore down to put a kit in it and drilled mounting holes to match the SB manifold. Gotta find some jets cuz I boogered one up removing it. Hey! the screwdriver worked on everything else LOL Note to self: check screw to driver match before twisting on brass jets in a 40 year old carb
Also started the upholstery project. I have all but the driver's seat removed and the old covers ripped apart to use for patterns for new vinyl. WOW that was some crusty crunchey vinyl in the sun exposed areas. The piping along the back seat rest was actually fused to the parent vinyl from the years of sun beating through the back glass I couldn't get it apart without tearing up my pattern piece so I will have to "improvise, adapt, and overcome" Well its been too windy and rainy lately to get any welding done on the body so I'm mostly concentrating on mechanical stuff for now. I think I will start on the floor board(s) when I do start welding again, also entertaining the thought of frame connectors while I have the floor out, but that's another chapter...Need to rewatch some episodes of Muscle Car on Spike TV
OK, in the mean time, here's some pics. Thanks for looking.

This is the carb base after drilling new mounting holes:

Re: Just another '74 Callenger [Re: Scott Carl] #156440
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