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69 Superbee Hemi Air Cleaner (air grabber)?? #2349994
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I was looking at the 69 hemi superbee that sold on Mecum this last weekend. It seems to have a 70 style with 70 valve covers.

Was there a transition period and did the late 69 hemi cars come with a 70 air cleaner set up?

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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
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Agree.

The valve covers are 69 and older.

The air cleaner is a 69-71 style without air dam.

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Re: 69 Superbee Hemi Air Cleaner (air grabber)?? [Re: dragon slayer] #2350132
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Around here , we call the N96 option on a Dodge a "Ramcharger " instead of an air grabber .

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Just looked at the car pics. Those are not 70-71 Valve covers, those are the 66-69 style.

These are 70-71's:

Hemi Valve After Wrinkle.jpg70-71 Hemi Valve Cover B (2).jpg
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Off the car

Hemi Valve covers in primer (1).jpg
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66-69 style

66-69 Hemi Valve Covers.JPG
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Re: 69 Superbee Hemi Air Cleaner (air grabber)?? [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #2350337
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Originally Posted By hotairballoonpilot


That has a 69-71 N96 air cleaner and 66-69 valve covers AKA correct

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I thought the 69 N96 hemi air cleaner base vent tube went to the Driver side and the 70 and up went to the Passenger side. This is to passenger side. I thought the large breather cap was on the driver side and the small on passenger side like the Non N96 cars. Or is there a difference between the two (Non and N96 cars)?

I miss stated about the valve covers being 70s, got confused with the caps on different sides.

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69 Hemi GTX and 69 Hemi Road Runner. This is how they rolled off the line.

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1969 340 4 Speed Swinger R4,
black vinyl, white butt stripe, 3:91

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So N96 cars different, thank you. DO you happen to have a close up of the GTX Power Steering hose at both ends? Part # off metal band?

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Sorry, I no longer own that one.


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This is from the nick's garage website on air cleaners. UPDATE: I've been informed that the air cleaner shown below is for 1970 B-body only. 1969 has the breather tube on the driver's side. 1971 dropped the choke pre-heater hose fitting (small fitting behind rear carburetor) although some cars may have gotten units with the fitting.

Maybe website is wrong.

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The website is absolutely wrong. Besides, the tube they are referring to will pivot to either side. The pictures I posted are correct for 1969.


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Wrong! All 69 air grabber and ram chargers whether they were 383,440, or hemi had breather on the driver side.

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Ok, So now we have a disagreement, and some high end cars would have wrong air cleaner on them.

I do know the tube does not pivot unless the assembly became broke/loose. I also know that folks have modified the base to change the orientation when as an example a 69 383 Air Grabber base is used on a 70 Air grabber (for the larger oval air cleaner).

So for the hemi it does seem that we only have one base being sold as a reproduction, but that would not be the first time the industry decided to standardize a reproduction part to avoid multiple variations.

So back to the superbee... Does anyone have original pictures of 69 hemi airgrabber or ramcharger with the driver side breather?

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The Super Bee you are referring to, had the engine compartment restored by Frank Badalson, probably the most knowledgeable guy out there on 69 Hemi cars.


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Re: 69 Superbee Hemi Air Cleaner (air grabber)?? [Re: gtx-guy] #2352039
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Originally Posted By gtx-guy
Wrong! All 69 air grabber and ram chargers whether they were 383,440, or hemi had breather on the driver side.

I was second owner of a well known 69 Hemi Bee and the oil breather was on the passenger side. However, if we are nitpicking the 69 engine compartment, I have never had a 1969 B-Body car where the heater hoses had a metal strap around them like in the photos of the Hemi Bee link and as shown in the engine compartments above? I was the original owner of a 69 383 Runner, second owner of a 9100 mile A12 in 1972 and a 41,000 mile 69 Hemi Bee in the late 80's. The heater hoses were always just loose and held in place by the bracket on the inner fender and one on the alternator. I do not believe the tie straps are correct? Does anyone have a factory photo that shows straps on a 69? Here's a photo from an untouched 5600 mile A12 Bee with original hoses.
http://a12mopar.com/yabb/Attachments/IMG_4540.JPG

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