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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: JAMESDART] #2594937
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Originally Posted By JAMESDART
What oil pans have you tried? the road race pan is cool but I think it's too wide for the Spool mount k frame. I like the hemi pan I just had to cut the lip off the k frame and weld it.


That is a C body 187 pan in the picture. It could be made to work but I'd like a little more oil capacity. I tried a Hemi pan but the idler won't clear without making some major modifications. The Milodon road race pan won't fit the late model K frame without a lot of modification. I'm going to try the Mancini Hemi pan that has the 187 notch. That should be the perfect pan if it fits. It has the 6 qt capacity but it also has the 187 idler arm notch. So basically they took two good ideas and married them together. I haven't tried it yet so we'll see if it actually works like it is supposed to. If it doesn't work then I suppose it is time for something custom.

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Yeah I have the c body pan on my duster I feel it doesn't hold enough. I wasn't able to find anyone that fit the hemi pan, I wanted to try it on the dart so I bought the cheap 440source pan. I think I just put a dent with a piece of round bar to clear the grease fitting, but I don't remember now.

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Finally got around to building some permanent brackets for the front spoiler. This is a metal spoiler from Spoilers by Randy. It looks nice but the attaching hardware seemed like a joke so I tossed it all in the trash. If this car goes 125 mph at the track then there is going to be a fair amount of force pushing on the spoiler so I wanted something fairly beefy to hold it in place.

The factory tabs that Randy attaches to are just flat tabs with no support for the face of the spoiler. I got rid of those and bent up some tabs that extend out and support the top as well as the front of the spoiler. I welded my tabs to the frame but if I were to sell these as a kit I'd probably recommend people bolt them to the lower core support.

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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2595635
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Time to fab up some lightweight bumper brackets! grin

These are the brackets I have on my Duster. Got them a few years ago, they were made by a guy on here JBMopars. These shaved a bunch of weight but still hold the stock steel bumper up no problem.

Obviously no spoiler mount but you get the idea.






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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: JAMESDART] #2595808
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Originally Posted By JAMESDART
What oil pans have you tried? the road race pan is cool but I think it's too wide for the Spool mount k frame. I like the hemi pan I just had to cut the lip off the k frame and weld it.
I've got the Milodon RR pan in my B engine A with the spool mounts. It's tight and I did some trimming on the lip when I welded it up. The K members aren't very consistent in the fine details, and I'm using the Schumaker conversion mounts so- YMMV.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2596804
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I welded ends or caps onto the K frame. I haven't seen this done before but it seemed like an easy upgrade. The cap adds some strength and provides me with a place to attach a strap.

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Here are the oil pans I tried. The black one is the one from Mancini. It seems to work the best. They call it a Hemi pan but I think a better description would be a deep 187 pan. It basically looks like the 187 pan but is just deeper. The orange pan is a factory 187, the green pan is another Hemi pan from Mancini and the gold pan is the Milodon road race.

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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2596881
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Nice selection. Is the engine already chosen?


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For some reason I didn’t think the notch was needed on the 73+ steering? You tried these pans with the engine and trans in place in the car?

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: ZIPPY] #2596953
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Originally Posted By ZIPPY
Nice selection. Is the engine already chosen?


Yep, I'm pulling the 512 out of my Coronet and putting it in the Duster. I'm building a 496 (426W with 4.25 stroke) for the Coronet.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: JAMESDART] #2596954
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Originally Posted By JAMESDART
For some reason I didn’t think the notch was needed on the 73+ steering? You tried these pans with the engine and trans in place in the car?


It is required in my car. It doesn't need to be a big notch but there needs to be clearance for the idler or else the steering won't go full lock.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2596987
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The 1966 to 1969 street hemi oil pans fit the early, 1962 to 1965, B Body very well, they are a lot deeper than the stock 4 quart 361 up to the street 426 oil pans also shruggy Hence the welded on wedges on the street hemi k members t help protect them work
If you wanted to use a 1966 to 1971 b body wedge k member in your car the 1970/71 Hemi and 440 6 pack 6 quart oil pans fit really good and they are not hanging down like the street hemi pans do, that swap also moves the motor down and back around 1 inch moving the center of gravity back also devil up


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Duster Cab, Duster.....

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Nice and concise images and explanations Andy.
Your environment makes anyone want to tool on their cars, even if you are doing it old school on a crawler.

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Originally Posted By AndyF
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If you slide the motor back about one inch to the rear in the duster the stock 1970/71 6 quart Street Hemi and 440 6 pack oil pan works very well up


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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2599076
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It looks like I can squeeze the big radiator out of a Cordoba into the space available. It is a tight fit between the frame rails but it clears. The Cordoba shroud also fits just fine and I think I can make the hoses work also. This is an old stock radiator but new ones are available from Rock Auto for $300 so I should be good to go. I'm going to take this radiator over to a shop in the morning and see what they say.

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Curious Andy...

Why an OE radiator and not aluminum from one of the various suppliers?

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It might just be the angle of the picture, but looks like it sticks up from the radiator support a fair amount. Does the hood close with it in place?

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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Curious Andy...

Why an OE radiator and not aluminum from one of the various suppliers?


I like the OE look, especially for radiators and shrouds. Aftermarket radiators and shrouds tend to be ugly. Griffin does make some nice aluminum radiators that have an OE appearance but they are super expensive.

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Originally Posted By DusterKid
It might just be the angle of the picture, but looks like it sticks up from the radiator support a fair amount. Does the hood close with it in place?


It does stick up a fair amount but the hood has some clearance in that area so it seems to close okay. I'll keep an eye on it as the build progresses.

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