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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: 71_340s_Only] #1376744
04/16/13 10:55 AM
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Not to hijack, but I've been doing some research as well. It seems Microsquirt2 v3 (with some minor mods)can run with just the 24x GM wheel and no cam sensor. It is batch-fire fuel and waste-fire spark but several people are running 700hp+ boosted engines with it. Conveniently, when wiring for waste-fire spark the cylinder pairs are the same for an LS1 and small block mopar. It looks very simple to install and you can still use junkyard LS1 coils, throttle body, etc. I plan to install a 24x wheel like Quicksilver did and follow these directions:
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=543066

This seems like a simple option for those looking to tune their own car. Its about $350-400 for the microsquirt, so cost will probably end up about the same as using the GM computer and paying for the tune.

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: j.mcconnell] #1376745
06/24/13 01:32 AM
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BTT bringing this one back from the dead as I'm getting ready to finally swap....really tired of tuning with the carb lol

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: SLOW67] #1376746
06/25/13 10:37 AM
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Wondering if any more progress has been made too. think I've read this whole thread a dozen times.
Its something I'd like to possibly do, I found a shop somewhat close that tunes LS dirt cars. They will put a base tune on your computer for what I think is a reasonable price. Haven't called them to see if they would be willing to something like this.

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: gpuller] #1376747
06/25/13 01:14 PM
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I did the EFI with coils about 10 years ago with a AEM ecm and LS coils . It is nice to be able to tune fuel and timeing on a individual cylinder. I run 400 hp nitrous .
But with out EGTs or 8 O2s I am not sure I would bother as it is going to be a tunning nightmare .
I have 8 EGTs and 2 O2s .would like 8 O2s but that is cost prohibitive.
We are running the Factory Ls computers on some stuff and I can tell you it is good stuff . It how ever is not as good as A good aftermarket ECM . I have A lot more usable features in my AEM. the factory Ecm is dedicated where others make them much more flexable.
As you can see I covered my Ls coils as they are ugly as sh!t


Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #1376748
12/01/13 01:45 AM
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I plan on using a Jeep cam sensor like the one you have mentioned in this thread. The pinout shows a 5V in, GND and 0-5V output. I assume that one would have to regulate the 12V battery voltage down to 5V for this sensor?

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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: PC-CHARGER] #1376749
12/01/13 05:20 AM
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The 5 volts will be provided by the pcm...

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #1376750
12/02/13 01:32 PM
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I'm still working on collecting parts lol but my harness is done and ready to loom. Waiting on my money tree to grow

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: PC-CHARGER] #1376751
12/02/13 07:32 PM
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Quote:

I plan on using a Jeep cam sensor like the one you have mentioned in this thread. The pinout shows a 5V in, GND and 0-5V output. I assume that one would have to regulate the 12V battery voltage down to 5V for this sensor?




Regulated 5V is provided by the FAST ECU at the TPS and MAP sensors (red wires).

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1376752
01/04/14 02:53 AM
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I still need a bushing to use the Jeep Dizzy, Any one have anything?

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Dos Snails] #1376753
03/09/14 01:10 AM
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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Dos Snails] #1802521
04/13/15 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Dos Snails
I still need a bushing to use the Jeep Dizzy, Any one have anything?


SD Concepts is making them.

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: gpuller] #1803142
04/14/15 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By gpuller
Originally Posted By Dos Snails
I still need a bushing to use the Jeep Dizzy, Any one have anything?


SD Concepts is making them.


Yes, very nice piece well worth the asking price.


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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Bad340fish] #1973831
12/21/15 02:47 PM
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do you have to time or sync the crank reluctor ring and cam sensor, if so is it done off cylinder 1 tdc?

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341231
07/21/17 11:09 PM
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Where do you purchase the SD concepts bushing? I don't see the option on their site. Is there another option?


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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341233
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Hows that for a resurrection?


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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341294
07/22/17 12:41 AM
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Did you see the new cam sensor from Andy F?
I have them in stock. Checkout the CNP page on my website.

Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341322
07/22/17 01:44 AM
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Ya its all nice stuff..


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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341324
07/22/17 01:58 AM
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I emailed Jerry, I don't have the address handy though. You might check out the facebook page for them.


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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341848
07/23/17 09:53 AM
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i'm here, you can pm me here. I've got kids at camp and i'm in and out of the office. we have the cps bushings on the shelf as well as our crank trigger kits for big blocks and small blocks. IF they would have asked rich wouldn't have had to reinvent the wheel


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Re: My 440 EFI- Coil on Plug & LS PCM ignition project [Re: Quicksilver440] #2341849
07/23/17 09:56 AM
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we have a 24x trigger wheel available for our crank trigger kits as well if anyone needs those.


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