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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2339270
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Now now, the roller rocker set I bought from them arrived loose in a box and had some peanuts to cushion them as they banged into each other on he way. What's wrong with that?


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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: cudadoug] #2339282
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
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For sure what Andy said. The any box will do thing would be funny if it weren't true. Received a pred tunnel ram in a KFC bulk biscuit box, no bs. Nothing like having the help ask you "what did you order from KFC, aren't you fat enough"? lol


Ken Lazzeri (sp?) is a pretty big guy, maybe it was HIS box first?


No wonder they're all fired up all the time. I hear the KFC diet will make you bend the blood pressure gauge needle.

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2339353
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Were they at Carlisle this year? I didn't notice them, maybe it's just a mental block.

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2339372
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No just us peons out selling the stuff along with all the other fine merchandise ya'll love so much,.......You know Indy,KB, Mopar Performance, Milodon, I must be truly insane....

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: sasquatch] #2339384
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Originally Posted By sasquatch
No just us peons out selling the stuff along with all the other fine merchandise ya'll love so much,.......You know Indy,KB, Mopar Performance, Milodon, I must be truly insane....


Rebranded stuff they triple the price on? Sold many MP 509 cams lately? realcrazy

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: joshking440] #2339398
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Originally Posted By joshking440
I'm sure that's what you were told but the Truth is that the deal was 90% done but at the last minute the buyer backed out.

You need ISO certifications to sell parts to Mopar and if you have ever seen the Indy process, ISO certs would be a complete reboot of the company.

It's still for sale and there are people that are actively searching for a buyer


Imagine the first corrective action, preventative action with objective evidence that they would have to deal with....

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2339411
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It's interesting. One year I overheard them (ich) talking about some guy who was irate that they ruined his hemi heads when converting them to dual plug. The one guy said those heads should never be made dual plug, the other said yeah, but that's what he asked for, so that's what he got. I had them figured out then. Total jerks.

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Yes but they all come in a Comp Cams box......that was kinda my point. Todd

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: killermopar] #2339587
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Originally Posted By killermopar
It's interesting. One year I overheard them (ich) talking about some guy who was irate that they ruined his hemi heads when converting them to dual plug. The one guy said those heads should never be made dual plug, the other said yeah, but that's what he asked for, so that's what he got. I had them figured out then. Total jerks.


I spoke with that customer a few years ago at Carlisle. IIRC, He said the rockers hit the spark plug tubes. Russ told him to dent the tubes for clearance. His answer, "How the he** do I change the spark plugs"? Last I was told, they made a great doorstop.

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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2339673
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OT........Not to excuse anything......... But couldn't you just put spark plug "plugs" in the extra holes and run them with single spark plugs?

As opposed to using them as door stops.


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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: fast68plymouth] #2339705
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
OT........Not to excuse anything......... But couldn't you just put spark plug "plugs" in the extra holes and run them with single spark plugs?

As opposed to using them as door stops.

I guess he could have. I don't remember why he wanted/needed the dual plugs, but he said they told him they could do it, without telling him it wouldn't work. He was pretty hot when he stopped by my vending area. The doorstop comment may have just been said in frustration. Idk.


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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2339735
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Remaining OT a bit more........

So, the issue is the rockers hit the spark plug tubes for the second set of plugs.......
Aren't those extra spark plug tubes going to be there no matter what heads you use?


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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Remaining OT a bit more........

So, the issue is the rockers hit the spark plug tubes for the second set of plugs.......
Aren't those extra spark plug tubes going to be there no matter what heads you use?


I edited to say "IIRC", because it's been a few years since I talked to him. I thought it was rocker clearance. What I do remember is the advice from Indy to dent the spark plug tube, and how angry he was about it.


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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: dthemi] #2339992
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Originally Posted By dthemi
For sure what Andy said. The any box will do thing would be funny if it weren't true. Received a pred tunnel ram in a KFC bulk biscuit box, no bs. Nothing like having the help ask you "what did you order from KFC, aren't you fat enough"? lol


C'mon man. Uline charges for new boxes and packing.


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Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2340257
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Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By joshking440
I'm sure that's what you were told but the Truth is that the deal was 90% done but at the last minute the buyer backed out.

You need ISO certifications to sell parts to Mopar and if you have ever seen the Indy process, ISO certs would be a complete reboot of the company.

It's still for sale and there are people that are actively searching for a buyer


Ahh come on, ISO certs for Indy would be easy. I could write up the process that Indy follows in about 30 seconds! I think it is something like this:

1. Scream at the customer and tell them they are stupid
2. Machine the parts blindfolded
3. Throw parts in a box. Any box will do.
4. Charge extra
5. When customer calls to complain repeat step 1.

There, now you are ISO certified and you will pass any ISO inspection. The motto of ISO is "document what you do and do what you document".



Andy you win Moparts for today! Great post.

andy, you are spot on ! the company i worked for 42 1/2yrs. at was ISO certified. while the concept is sound, i'll bet 90% of certificates are like where i worked. do real good at first getting accredited, then at each audit thereafter, hide everything that doesn't meet requirements, then pay the re-certification fees. always an ISO qualified company one can trust ! NOT !! flame ISO is a JOKE, invented by, and for, people who just want to COLLECT money without LIFTING A FINGER to earn it ! no one will ever convince me differently ! with that said, however, i believe there are SOME companies out there that are truly ISO compliant that take the CONCEPT to heart, and are excellent companies to deal with. also many more that are NOT ISO companies that are WAY BETTER to deal with in ALL ways.
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Originally Posted By moparx
Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By joshking440
I'm sure that's what you were told but the Truth is that the deal was 90% done but at the last minute the buyer backed out.

You need ISO certifications to sell parts to Mopar and if you have ever seen the Indy process, ISO certs would be a complete reboot of the company.

It's still for sale and there are people that are actively searching for a buyer


Ahh come on, ISO certs for Indy would be easy. I could write up the process that Indy follows in about 30 seconds! I think it is something like this:

1. Scream at the customer and tell them they are stupid
2. Machine the parts blindfolded
3. Throw parts in a box. Any box will do.
4. Charge extra
5. When customer calls to complain repeat step 1.

There, now you are ISO certified and you will pass any ISO inspection. The motto of ISO is "document what you do and do what you document".



Andy you win Moparts for today! Great post.

andy, you are spot on ! the company i worked for 42 1/2yrs. at was ISO certified. while the concept is sound, i'll bet 90% of certificates are like where i worked. do real good at first getting accredited, then at each audit thereafter, hide everything that doesn't meet requirements, then pay the re-certification fees. always an ISO qualified company one can trust ! NOT !! flame ISO is a JOKE, invented by, and for, people who just want to COLLECT money without LIFTING A FINGER to earn it ! no one will ever convince me differently ! with that said, however, i believe there are SOME companies out there that are truly ISO compliant that take the CONCEPT to heart, and are excellent companies to deal with. also many more that are NOT ISO companies that are WAY BETTER to deal with in ALL ways.
beer



So true the last company I worked for was ISO certified. The VP of operations would get out the ISO manual 2 weeks before recert time. Half of the crap in the ISO manual they didn't follow so workers would than have to spend about a week updating paper work, etc to comply so they could pass...

Re: What ever happened with the rumors about Indy being sold [Re: pittsburghracer] #2340481
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I can tell you Toyota follows ISO and it's a big deal there. At least their logistics arm where I worked did. Always kaizen as they say.


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I worked at Xerox for 10+ years and we were ISO certified. It meant something in some parts of the organization such as production areas but in other areas it was just a joke. So I've seen both sides of it. ISO is just a tool like any other tool. You can use a hammer to drive nails or break windows. Not really the tools fault if it gets misused.

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Originally Posted By SomeCarGuy
I can tell you Toyota follows ISO and it's a big deal there. At least their logistics arm where I worked did. Always kaizen as they say.


They've been doing that for over 20 years. Worked at a tier 1 auto part supplier. They supplied painted parts to all manufacturers, but the Toyota stuff would get scrapped if there was a blemish 1mm big. Everything else was put on the floor, then the QC guy would step back 10' to see if you could still see the blemish. "good to go"

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Latest rumor is that Indy's tooling is worn out and needs retooled to meet tolarences on machined blocks and heads.This would cost any new buyer millions as well as the current owners to move forward with quality production.This has not been confirmed from any reliable source.We personably was never told directly by Indy that they were being sold,just rumors here and from others.I have no dog in this fight but know the the shop still remains a WD for Indy products and has since 1998 and hopes to continue the successful relationship.I can only add that I wish both BGR and Indy much more success in the future.Let the speculation and rumors run rampant,some where the true facts will emerge.
Respectfully,Bob

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