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#2378782 - 09/29/17 10:36 AM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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I'm hoping that someone with the authority and access to do so fixes the day three live feed audio/video sync issue.

The sound is there.......the video is there........ I would think there would be a way to get the two synced up, if one had the desire and skills to do it.

I just can't enjoy watching it like it is now.
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#2378918 - 09/29/17 01:55 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: fast68plymouth]
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
I'm hoping that someone with the authority and access to do so fixes the day three live feed audio/video sync issue.

The sound is there.......the video is there........ I would think there would be a way to get the two synced up, if one had the desire and skills to do it.

I just can't enjoy watching it like it is now.

That would be great, but I wouldn't hold my breath. That kind of video editing takes time and $$. Day 3 has only 120K views- less than 1/2 of day 1 but not far off from the rest of the week, so probably not enough potential to offset the co$t.
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#2378958 - 09/29/17 03:20 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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happy to meet everyone. Met Efidart and Fuirous 70, and a lot others that I can't give a nick name to. I am am not so social person that I would try to search for everyone around, the others in the team were more capable of that. And we had a lot to do. At gateway, we took a trip to moparbillys pit place with my girlfriend, but they were working so only took a look at their cars, and left.Especially liked the early Valiant , the Duster and the Gremlin. I'ms Dart/Valiant guy, and we don't have a lot of '61-'62 2 d's here. ,64, and uo a different story..., even I have one. Mayde I'll bring it there nest year! And efidart, shared a few words with you, but would have liked more. And furous 70, what a gorgeous and quick car!

And I'm really happy with the performance with our early stages of development. Compared to the competitors, We were technically about 20-30 years behind. But the performance considering the weight was there with the modest boost. Maybe nest summer we'll see what the car is capable of. At the moment looking at my wollet I feel we will not return next year. Basically I invested one years wages to the project, and there is still the life to live. But..., we'll see.

Thanks all!
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#2378980 - 09/29/17 04:10 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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That would be great, but I wouldn't hold my breath. That kind of video editing takes time and $$. Day 3 has only 120K views- less than 1/2 of day 1 but not far off from the rest of the week, so probably not enough potential to offset the co$t.


I won't hold my breath......but I seem to recall there was a similar issue in one of the previous years that eventually got sorted out.
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#2378988 - 09/29/17 04:37 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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hmmm, I didn't actually get to talk to you, I was only at Union Grove. Which car are you talking about? =)

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#2379353 - 09/30/17 12:48 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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Rick and Sharma Hardee
The Gebhart boys have known Rick since high school. Like most gear heads who grew up in the same area, and have a soft spot for the same type of cars for thirty years, sometimes the relationship has been friendly and helpful, sometimes it's very competitive. The yellow 70 Gran Coupe Dale owns now, once belonged to Rick, as did the Belvedere Rachael raced on Drag Week the last five years. Conversely Rick bought the 73 Cuda racecar that I owned before I got the Challenger.

When my brothers moved from Northeast Oklahoma to the Tulsa area they ceased to cross paths with Rick as often, then a few years ago we heard that he had lost most of his extensive Mopar stash in a messy divorce. He disappeared from the scene for a while until he met Sharma, a gal whose previous life experiences had brought her to the realization that she liked Mopars more than men. It was a match made in...I don't know Hamtramck? They seem to be great for each other at this stage of life, I mean to say.

A blown engine in Sharma's 70 Cuda show car right before Hot Rod Power Tour, led them to Dale's doorstep. He sold them a long block and helped them install it just in time to make the event. That started a dialogue about a quickie paint and repair job on the Gremlin. I warned against the plan when I dropped off the green gremlin in July, citing the lack of time, and pleading with Dale to just straighten the fender and start on a paint job right after DW17. Rick and Sharma picked up the Gremlin in late July, with the plan of just fixing and re-painting the fender. They executed the plan perfectly, and although the white didn't match exactly, the little car was whole again in a week.

It would have been a cool story, except Dale wasn't happy with that and got greedy. He decided on a full re-paint, and by the way, lets use the fender off the green car, and the doors off the green car because he wanted real roll up and down windows, oh and he purchased two perfect grilles so repaint one of those. This was around August 1st, and the happy couple had a two week Colorado vacation scheduled in August.

Then, just when you thought this tale couldn't get any more crazy, they caught Drag Week fever and Rick posted a picture of their stock daily driven small block 71 Dart on September 1st with the caption, "we're going to turn this into a fire breathing monster in seven days for Drag Week 2017!"
That was my last day of work before I was off for Hell Week, so I immediately called Dale and asked if the Gremlin was done.
"Nope, they're still finishing up the paint."
"Did you see what Rick just posted about their Dart!"
"Oh yeah, he just bought a 470 from Sam Barker (sam64-Moparts) for it!"
"So, what are you going to do now?" I asked.
"Well...obviously I'm going to have to spend some time at their shop this coming week to make sure I get the Gremlin in time to finish it up", he reasoned.


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#2380084 - 10/01/17 04:11 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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Will, Michelle, and Derik Heath
Will Heath was a friend of Cody, Dale's step son. He bought the big block Aspen that Cody and Dale built years ago. Then his younger brother Derik purchased the small block Mopar powered BMW from Dale. Finally, Michelle (Will's Wife) purchased the 70 Duster that was previously owned by Michael Beeler, from Dale. Dale kept the 572-13 mega block engine and tricked out 727, and sold the magnum force front end, 4 link Dana 60 pro street Duster less engine and transmission.

Michele and Derik both managed to get pre-registered for Drag Week during that hectic six minutes in March, so they were determined to make their first ever attempt at the event.

Now, you can spin this story several different ways depending on your perspective. It's either a case of my three younger brothers taking these bright eyed kids under their wings to provide them with the technical expertise and discounted parts to build cars far beyond what their skills and budgets would allow, or it's a case of three older hot rodders finding some awestruck young proteges to unload all their used, and possibly used up junk on! I'm eleven hundred miles away from the day to day interactions so my best guess is the reality is somewhere in the middle!

Derik wanted to bring the Beemer, but he removed the electromotive fuel injection and replaced it with a carb, and driveability wasn't sorted out yet. He also wasn't confident that the sketchy BMW IRS would handle repeated full throttle launches on drag radials either, so he elected to bring his daily driven small block chevy, short box, 14 sec., 79 GMC C15. While we were disappointed, a slower more reliable option was probably a good choice.

The original plan for Michelle's Duster was the Indy headed 440 that Dale had sprayed into the eights on two Drag Weeks, but upon close scrutiny, most of those parts fell into the "used up" category. The H-beam rods were combined with a 4.15 crank Darren had on hand, and she purchased a set of Icon flattops for 500 inches. One of the Indy -1 castings was damaged beyond repair, so a new bare head was ordered and all the hardware transferred over. Dale's old 272/640 Howard's Flat tappet was put into service, along with a set of Indy rockers that Dale had on a shelf. The barely used Cometic head gaskets Darren had were thicker than they wanted, but time and dollars necessitated their use, so compression came in at 10.4.


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#2380431 - 10/02/17 05:30 AM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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As it is every year, my plan was to be ready to roll out for Oklahoma as soon as I came home from work Friday afternoon. I remained a perfect 0 for 7 in that regard. Saturday was spent on the Valiant, and sorting out the things I needed to bring with me. Sunday was spent loading the truck and trailer, and I was very near leaving that afternoon when the AC went out on the house. A racing buddy who is an HVAC tech agreed to come over Labor Day Monday morning for a look, so I felt compelled to stick around until that was taken care of. With cold air restored to the house, the Wife released the leash and I headed for Flagstaff at around 1:30 pm.
Normally, I stop for fuel in Flag, just to check the rig out and stretch, but I had the bit between my teeth and kept rolling. Six and a half hours later I pulled into the Love's in Gallup NM. With only one car on the trailer, and averaging about 62 mph, the twelve valve had knocked down 16mpg on that leg, but twice it had seemed to die for a second then catch and keep right on going. I've never had it do that in the eight years I've owned it, so it had me concerned. Once I was rolling again, I was reluctant to stop and finally pulled over at the Pajarito Rest Area about thirty miles past Santa Rosa NM. I'd covered 620 miles in eleven hours and it was time for nap. I crawled onto the carpeted plywood bed cover under my camper shell, sandwiched between two sleeping bags, and popped my head on the pillow. I awoke four hours later, surprised actually that it was still dark. Usually in such instances I don't get up until the morning sun peeks through the camper shell windows.
"Dang, this trip is going pretty good!" I told myself as I decided to get up and head down the road once again. I laid on my belly and pushed my legs out over the tailgate until I could bend at the waist and gain footing on the bumper to pull myself out of the shell. My right foot found the trailer ball, and I eased out a little more until my left felt the bumper. I pushed myself out with my arms, transferring my weight to my legs and my left foot slipped off the bumper. I nearly crashed to the ground but my left foot caught on something momentarily, and that allowed me just enough time to catch myself before it gave way. Once safely on the ground, and now fully awake, I looked down to see what I had caught my foot on. As I somewhat feared, it was the trailer electrical cord, which I had just ripped out of the back of the 7-way plug! Had it already been sunrise, I probably would have tied it back and fixed it once I was at Dale's, but I needed lights to continue at this hour, and I didn't feel like trying to go back to sleep, so I dug the electrical tools out of the Valiant and repaired it on the spot. "If no-one else heard you say it, can you still jinx yourself", I thought, but I already knew the answer.


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#2380676 - 10/02/17 02:23 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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Here's another rules question for ya Billy.....or anyone else for that matter.

On day 2, Tom Bailey has an issue on the track, and the car is unable to get back to pits under its own power.
It appears to have gotten a tow back to the pits by the 1320video crew, and they were talking like he might come back for another run(this was before they knew it was doa).

I thought you could only get a tow back to the pits from another competitor, otherwise you are done.
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#2380680 - 10/02/17 02:37 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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Who is they?

Technically he should only have help from people in impound, but when no one is around what is a guy to do.

Maybe they can go back and retroactively disqualify him for pointing out that fact......
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#2380709 - 10/02/17 03:30 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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"They" are the 1320video crew....... Specifically, the "front man", who was at the top end talking to Tom, and it appeared he was driving the golf cart while towing Tom back to the pits.

I saw this on the day 2 recap coverage.

The reason I question it is because, I think it was day 4, there was a car dead at the top end, and the guys in the tower were saying if he got a tow back to the pits by someone other than another competitor he would be "out".
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#2380725 - 10/02/17 04:16 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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Kind of a moot point now, but something to keep in mind next year, in the heat of competition.

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#2380786 - 10/02/17 05:54 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: fast68plymouth]
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Here's another rules question for ya Billy.....or anyone else for that matter.

On day 2, Tom Bailey has an issue on the track, and the car is unable to get back to pits under its own power.
It appears to have gotten a tow back to the pits by the 1320video crew, and they were talking like he might come back for another run(this was before they knew it was doa).

I thought you could only get a tow back to the pits from another competitor, otherwise you are done.

From the Hot Rod official 2017 Drag Week Rules
Quote:
•All vehicles must be driven under their own power during the entire Drag Week competition and may not be
towed, trailered, pushed, or hauled at any time. The exception is in the event of an emergency in which a
vehicle needs to be removed from the roadway or other dangerous situation, in which case assistance may be
used to move the car a short distance to a safe area, for example, to the next highway exit.

Doesn't say anything about tows on the track.
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#2380818 - 10/02/17 06:35 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: Skeptic]
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IF Hot Rod really wanted to push it they would
have said he was done... but we all know that
Hod Rod wants to put the big show on.. that means
the big boy WILL run.. all they had to say was
the group of people that pulled him back was
cleared to do so... true or not.. but the show
has to go on.. the 3 times I've been there Hot
Rod does close their eyes to certain things
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#2380820 - 10/02/17 06:36 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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they seem to make some impromptu rules as needed....if you read the rules again, you'll see that Keith Turk can do pretty much whatever he wants.

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#2380821 - 10/02/17 06:37 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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Suppose a car breaks or runs out of fuel on the tracfk, or on the return road. Can the driver, his trunk monkey, or other racers push it back to the pit? I thought it was OK.
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#2380908 - 10/02/17 08:55 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MR_P_BODY]
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
IF Hot Rod really wanted to push it they would
have said he was done... but we all know that
Hod Rod wants to put the big show on.. that means
the big boy WILL run.. all they had to say was
the group of people that pulled him back was
cleared to do so... true or not.. but the show
has to go on.. the 3 times I've been there Hot
Rod does close their eyes to certain things
wave


He broke a rod in his billet engine, I am sure he knew it was done already or he wouldn't have parked it on the track.
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#2380912 - 10/02/17 08:59 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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There was a point a couple of years ago where DF and Brian Lohnes made an issue of it over the PA system. Next thing you know we had like five cars clogging up the turn-off and the return road. Twenty minutes later it was decided it was a safety issue, and they decreed that it was OK to get your car back to the pits by any means necessary.

At Indy in 2015, I actually got pushed all the way back to my pit spot by a track worker on one of those four-wheelers with the tire pusher like they use on the top fuel cars...those things work really sweet!
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#2380927 - 10/02/17 09:09 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: MoparBilly]
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A car dead at the end of the track I would expect could qualify as a dangerous situation under the rules.

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#2380930 - 10/02/17 09:11 PM Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2017: The Experience. [Re: Twostick]
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