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#2461609 - 03/05/18 03:30 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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Mine fired right up yesterday....Still has a little Sunoco supreme in it.

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#2461756 - 03/05/18 08:42 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: tboomer]
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Originally Posted By tboomer
Mine fired right up yesterday....Still has a little Sunoco supreme in it.
iagreewhat Ted said.
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#2461963 - 03/06/18 09:44 AM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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I only run Sunoco 110 even in my lawn equipment and I add 1 bottle of Stabil per gallon when I store it for more than a week. I also put brand new plugs in, change the oil (only stuff that costs > $15 per quart) and only prep it for storage only on odd days of the month.


Edited by GTX MATT (03/06/18 09:47 AM)
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#2461991 - 03/06/18 10:45 AM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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Brad, if you use a small pic and get it down into the slots where the fuel runs around the needle, and very gently pry/wiggle it, it will pop free.
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#2462005 - 03/06/18 11:19 AM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: fast68plymouth]
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I didn't realize that neither the QFT/Proform or the aluminum Holley Ultra main bodies have those cut-outs down the sides of the accel pump screw holes until the other day. However, I'll see if I've got something skinny enough to slide down next to the check needle to loosen it.

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#2462028 - 03/06/18 12:24 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: tboomer]
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Originally Posted By tboomer
Mine fired right up yesterday....Still has a little Sunoco supreme in it.


Yep, every time............. beer
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#2462039 - 03/06/18 12:51 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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If you grind a new point on the pick, nice and sharp, you might be able to have it "dig in" to the top of the needle while you try and wiggle it around.
I find the needles getting stuck against the seats isn't that uncommon at all.
It usually just takes the tiniest amount of movement to break them free.
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#2462332 - 03/06/18 08:33 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: SomeCarGuy]
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Loc: Columbus, GA
Originally Posted By SomeCarGuy
So nobody runs something like Stabil 360 for ethanol? Does that not work for this junky fuel?


Not tried 360, but a friend turned me on to using the stabil marine which supposed deals better with ethanol problems. No issues since I started using it years ago. Both my challenger and my GSXR have sat for months on end with no noticeable ill effects. Just recently rebuild the holley on the challenger and there was zero crud.

I will back up and say I had an issue with the motorcycle from dumping a bottle of seafoam or something in the tank after storage. Barely ran to the point of not being safe to drive (stalling, no power) pulled the plugs and they were fouled some weird red color. Changed plugs and it ran like a champ again. Note to self - don't mix and match fuel additives in the same tankful.
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#2462573 - 03/07/18 11:26 AM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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Originally Posted By BradH
Found the secondary accel pump needle below the nozzle screw on one of the aluminum body carbs we dynoed in October has corroded in place.

1. Soaked it from both sides w/ PB Blaster
2. Got out my skinny little pick collection and tried my best to dislodge it
3. Air pressure from my compressor thru a rubber-tipped nozzle
4. Even tried to force a pick into the top of the check needle w/ no luck

Final option... and the one I did not want to resort to... drill it out. But that's what I ended up doing cuz nothing else worked. sawzall

Then I had to take a series of drill bit shanks and resize the bottom of the hole to make sure the needle would drop all the way to the bottom and not get stuck again. hammer

The odd thing is the remains of the check needle don't look corroded, yet this thing was completely stuck in the passage.



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#2462612 - 03/07/18 12:42 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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Get the steel check valves from BLP and you should be golden........ thumbs
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#2462699 - 03/07/18 03:00 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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Wow that's crazy. I've had them stick before but not like that! I usually pull the bowl off and with a rubber tipped nozzle blow backwards up the passage and the pop right out.


The problem is just what you'd think it would be. If you don't hold you hand over the nozzle hole the check valve will end up bouncing off everything in the shop and you need to get your spare out!
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#2463159 - 03/08/18 01:38 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: madscientist]
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Man, I hope my carb isn't sick even with good race fuel sitting around.
The world's resources were much easier back when.

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#2463288 - 03/08/18 04:48 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: Thumperdart]
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Get the steel check valves from BLP and you should be golden........ thumbs

I only see one part # for check valves on BLP's web site. I definitely want steel, instead of brass or aluminum like my carbs all seem to have now. It's not hard to find articles online about the corrosive effect of ethanol on brass & aluminum, but steel seems to resist it much better.

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#2465290 - 03/12/18 03:00 PM Re: Reminder: Don't put your carb away "wet"... [Re: BradH]
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FWIW, I've ordered "a bunch" of stainless-steel check needles and stainless-steel discharge nozzle ("squirter") screws to replace all the NON stainless-steel ones I have. The brass and aluminum check needles should go into the trash IMO if you're running fuel with any alcohol in it.

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